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  1. #1
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    Hemos añadido documentación gracias a vosotros

    Gracias a Billy, fran_blau y a Xuan, hemos añadido un poco más de documentación a la web, la tenéis accesible desde la portada o bien en las secciones desde el anlace de arriba.

    También lo hemos difundido a otras webs y si alguien está interesado en recibir el archivo completo (y nos conocemos), me puede enviar un privado.

    http://www.peramosatros.es/modules.p...ticle&artid=71

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    Gav Gandia

    GAV des de 1977 fent valencianisme y mes forts que mai...

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    bueno hay un pequeño problema con un muñequillo de esos que lleva la Real Senyera .

    Cuando lo termine, volverá a estar a vuestra disposición en VFreedom, por el momento está en Pera Mosatros.

  4. #4
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Pues también está esto. Y con fotos.

    http://www.peramosatros.es/modules.p...ticle&artid=49

    El robo catalanistas de la bandera cuatribarrada

    Hui, el catalanisme mos ven la cuatribarrada com si fora una bandera de la seua creació i un hipotètic simbol representatiu de la nació catalana (en la que mos inclouen, com sabeu). Per ad això, argumenten que la cuatribarrada s'usaba tant en el regne de Valéncia com en Balears i Catalunya; deixant de banda a Aragó. L'intenció de la maniobra, és obvia: Aragó no parla català (sino aragonés) i històricament ha segut més antic e influent que Catalunya. En atres paraules: no pot ser justificada sa asimilació (etimològicament "fer similar", a base de catalanisarmos en este cas) per motius llingüístics i és un obstàcul per a fer a Catalunya protagonista de l'historia i poderiu de la Corona d'Aragó.

    Pero en realitat la cuatribarrada SEMPRE ha segut la senyal REIAL d'Aragó (açò és important per que a diferència d'Aragó, Catalunya mai va ser un regne i no podía ostentar un senyal reial, un atre motiu per a que hui vullga ferla passar per catalana) i el motiu de que històricament apareguera JUNT A LES BANDERES LOCALS DE VALENCIA, BALEARS I CATALUNYA no vol dir res més que eren territoris federats a la Corona d'Aragó. Era puix un símbol de fidelitat i germanor a ixe projecte comú iniciat per Aragó, i no una senyal de "catalanitat" sino d' "aragonesitat".

    Per a entendremos, la cuatribarrada per a Valéncia, Balears i Catalunya, simbolisaba lo que significa hui la bandera de l'Unió europea per a estats com França, Italia o Espanya; estats que poden usar, i usen, ixa bandera sense deixar de tindre la seua propia. I sí, la cuatribarrada era "una" bandera valenciana (i balear, i catalana, i d'Aragó, i de Sicília i Nàpols...) en el sentit de que s'usaba ací; pero no era "la" bandera valenciana, la bandera privativa del Regne de Valéncia, la de la franja blau.


    I lo mateix es pot dir de Catalunya: la cuatribarrada és "una" bandera catalana, pero no "la" bandera catalana; puix les banderes privatives d'ixos antics comtats son les de Santa Eulalia (màrtir catalana) i la de creus de Sant Jordi (patró dels catalans.. i els aragonesos) én dos cuarts de cuatre barres. Qui no s'heu crega, que vaja als museus.



    IMAGE 1: Portolà o carta marina, s. XV. (Hispanic Society of New YorK)








    Com veem, el Regne de Valéncia té la seua bandera i Catalunya una atra. Ni rastre de la pretesa cuatribarrada comú.

    IMAGE 2: Portolà de Pere Rosell, 1466. (Biblioteca James Ford Bell. University of Minnesota. Minneapolis, USA)








    Més de lo mateix. ¿I la cuatribarrada nois?


    IMAGE 3: Portolà italià d'Albino de Canepa, 1489. (Biblioteca James Ford Bell. University of Minnesota. Minneapolis, USA)







    ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿Un italià del s.XV que ya era un "puto blaver"???????????


    IMAGE 4: Portolà de Bartomeu Olives, 1552. (Hispanic Society of New York)







    IMAGE 5: Portolà de Joan Martines, 1570. (Biblioteca Nacional, Madrit)








    IMAGE 6: Portolà italià de Vincenzo Prunes, 1601. (Museu Naval de Gènova-Pegli)








    ¡Ché! ¿¿¿Es que tamé havíen "putos blavers" al llarc del s. XVII??? Això vol dir que els valencians teníen una conciència apart, i que inclús els estrangers diferenciaven Valencia de Catalunya ¡¡¡No pot ser!!!, la pel.lícula que tant mos ha costat montar se mos acaba. Joanet Fuster que estàs en l'infern ¡¡¡ajudans!!!


    I Joan Fuster, chec en mà i premi català en el cul, aprofità la transició democràtica per a manipular consciències: l'Estatut d'Autonomía Valencià estaba gestantse i calía aprofitar tal oportunitat per a oficialisar en Valencia la mateixa bandera que havía adoptat Catalunya, la cuatribarrada. Per ad això, calía crear entre les valencians una opinió publica favorable a la cuatribarrada, aixina com una repulsa general a la senyera tracicional én blau de l'antic Regne de Valéncia (d'Alacant, Castelló i Valencia), i per ad aixó publicà junt a Eliseu Climent el panflet El blau en la Senyera. Es crea el terme "blaver" en ànim despectiu.









    En ell, Fuster afirma coses com: "no és que la senyera valenciana siga igual a la catalana, és que és la mateixa", que la senyera én blau solament "és de la ciutat de València", o que "en nom de qué ens volen imposar a tots els valencians una bandera que sols es la de un municipi". En resum, vé a dir que la senyera en blau és un invent del franquisme.


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    Pero com veem, per a fer este llibret, el minyó Fuster, el "gran ensayista de la literatura catalana" es documentà én el típic rigor "científic" dels pancatalanistes.


    ¡VIXCA LA SENYERA ÉN BLAU, VIXCA LA CUATRIBARRADA DELS GERMANS ARAGONESOS! ¡FORA ELS MANIPULADORS I VENUTS!

    Abans de que sorgira el nacionalisme català fa poc més de cent anys, els catalans teníen asumides les genuínes banderes catalanes sense cap complex i no necessitaven apropiarse de la cuatribarrada d'Aragó com a bandera exclusiva i vendre que esta va sorgir en Catalunya.


    IMAGE 1: Rafael Casanova jurant la bandera de Santa Eulàlia en Barcelona.









    Image 2: Portada de Memorias históricas sobre la marina, comercio y artes de la antigua ciudad de Barcelona.









    Image 4: Portada de un llibre sobre el Consolat del Mar de Barcelona.









    IMAGE 4: Pintura del pintor català Mariano Fortuny que representa al comte català Ramón Berenguer en la bandera de Santa Eulàlia. Si no m'equivoque, es troba en el Museu nacional de Catalunya.









    Els aragonesos i els valéncians no s'avergoyim de les nostres raels

  5. #5
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    Tot lo que siga per el valencianisme!
    Gràcies a vosatros per la web. A seguir lluitant!

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    no cal ni donar les gracies , es el deber de tot valencià , defendre la terra on he naixcut , la meua historia cultura i llengua pa mi es un orgull !!!!
    Esta web es una de les coses que mes ajuden al valencianisme i liu agraixc al fundaor i als qe participem
    PROTEGIM LO REGNE !!!!! A PER TOTESSS!!!!!!

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    No se mereixen.

    Gràcies a vostes!

    Gràcies a Ricardo García Moya per la brutal faena que ha fet, esperem que se li reconega com s'heu mereix.

    Gràcies també als administraors de la uep de Ricardo ( http://www.garciamoya.110mb.com/manipulacio.htm ) per colaborar i decidir conjuntament en Ricardo que me permitiren la posibilitat de crear un fil que porta el seu nom.

    Gràcies a valenciafreedom per donar peu a mosatros els valencianistes i anticatalanistes de tot lo mon. Esta plataforma mos fa i vos fa grans. Este soport ha creat una comunitat de gent molt amplia que fa por

    SI... FEM POR!

    I MES QUE ANEM A FER!!

    Anime als usuaris a colaborar en el fil de documentació i literatura, que falta mos fa. El catalanisme te la lliçó ( curta ) ben adepresa. Tot argument catalaniste te un contraargument ben fonamentat, i ni ha que adeprendeselo.

    Hui penjaré el quint artícul en el fil. Llegiu-lo per l'amor de deu

    Agrait a tots!
    Regles d\'esquivar vocables, i q pressuntament fon escrita en el sigle XV.Aporte proves de que es una falsificació de1920..qui lligga el llibre sabra qui es el falsificador
    <a href=\'http://www.garciamoya.110mb.com\' target=_blank>Ricart García Moya

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    Estic escanejant el llibre de la Real Senyera de la Comunitat Valenciana nº 1, com me demanà BILLYJOE.

    El penjaré en megaupload o algú d'estos, per a tots vosatros
    <div style=\'text-align:center\'>[B]<a href=\'http://www.uiquipedia.org\' target=_blank>Administrador de Uiquipedia, la Wikipedia en Valencià</a>.
    <a href=\'http://www.mevalencianiste.ya.st\' target=_blank>Moviment Estudiantil Valencianiste</a>.

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    <div style=\'text-align:center\'>[B]<a href=\'http://www.uiquipedia.org\' target=_blank>Administrador de Uiquipedia, la Wikipedia en Valencià</a>.
    <a href=\'http://www.mevalencianiste.ya.st\' target=_blank>Moviment Estudiantil Valencianiste</a>.

  10. #10
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de xuan
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    Com me descarregue l'archiu de megaupload? es necesari registrarse?
    Regles d\'esquivar vocables, i q pressuntament fon escrita en el sigle XV.Aporte proves de que es una falsificació de1920..qui lligga el llibre sabra qui es el falsificador
    <a href=\'http://www.garciamoya.110mb.com\' target=_blank>Ricart García Moya

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    No Xuan, on posa amunt MEGAUPLOAD, , a la dreta fica " Per favor introduixca...... aci,", puix aixo fiques les lletres que posa i lo dones a download, despres te eixira una atra finestra que esperant ens 40 segons, per a que siga debaes, te deixa descarregartelo, be guardant-lo o obrint-lo.

    PER CERT MIXALBERTO ; ESTA DE P.M
    <div style=\'text-align:center\'>\"VALENCIANS, DEFENGAM NOSTRA TERRA
    CONTRA LLADRES, BOCHINS I TIRANS
    AJUNTEM-NOS, QUE YA ARRIBAT L´HORA
    QUE SOM DIGNES DE SER VALENCIANS \"</div>

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    Bueno pues lo hemos completado con las aportaciones.

    http://www.valenciafreedom.com/web/m...ticle&artid=60

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