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  1. #1
    Moderador Avatar de nrf_blau
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    Com expliquen les diferències entre llengües...

    Sabudes són les teories catalanistes de la unitat de la llengua, pero una cosa que hasda ara no podien explicar en convenciment són les diferències entre el vocabulari de les llengües, valenciana, balear i catalana. Ara voreu els "geosinònims"....

    -[I]Un cas a part són els geosinònims o sinònims dialectals, en què les relacions d'equivalència entre significats solen ser totals o perfectes, però la seua aparició és condicionada per la procedència dialectal del parlant. És el cas de sortir i eixir, per exemple.

    gos-ca, espill-mirall, noi-al.lot-xic, hui-avui, aviat-prompte, cercar-buscar, arena-sorra, gadella-poal, préssec-bresquilla, cotó en pèl-cotó fluix, pagés-llaurador petó-bes


    Extret d'un llibre de catlencià de bromera de ESO.
    La mentira catalana continua avant. És l'hora d'actuar.

  2. #2
    Creuat de lo Regne
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    mira per ha catlecia va ser quant la meu filla anava al institut de dalmau berenguer, catarroja per qui no sapia aon está este institut....
    el llibre que els donaren de historia posava que el valencia era dialecte del catala i anaven les fotos del entrenaor del barça johan cruiff... hi el seu chupachus.. a lo manco els pares els ferem llevar clar era molt fort ...clar aixo ya fa uns anys
    pero que pintava el cruiff en els llibres dels nostres fills.. puix enganyarlos mes sobre la nostra llengua i la nostra cultura......
    conte tot aixo per lo que tú dius fran blau de un llibre de bromera i els que te queden per vore encara.. clar yo espere que tot este fandango s´ha acave pronte...
    <div style=\'text-align:center\'>SEMPRE VALENCIANS MAI CATALANS....

    FORA EL IMPERIALISME CATALANISTA.

    VIXCA VALENCIA

  3. #3
    Cavaller Centenar Avatar de mevalencianiste
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    08 nov, 07
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    Aqui!
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    Re: Com expliquen les diferències entre llengües...

    Cita Iniciado por fran_blau
    Sabudes són les teories catalanistes de la unitat de la llengua, pero una cosa que hasda ara no podien explicar en convenciment són les diferències entre el vocabulari de les llengües, valenciana, balear i catalana. Ara voreu els "geosinònims"....

    -[I]Un cas a part són els geosinònims o sinònims dialectals, en què les relacions d'equivalència entre significats solen ser totals o perfectes, però la seua aparició és condicionada per la procedència dialectal del parlant. És el cas de sortir i eixir, per exemple.

    gos-ca, espill-mirall, noi-al.lot-xic, hui-avui, aviat-prompte, cercar-buscar, arena-sorra, gadella-poal, préssec-bresquilla, cotó en pèl-cotó fluix, pagés-llaurador petó-bes


    Extret d'un llibre de catlencià de bromera de ESO.
    La mentira catalana continua avant. És l'hora d'actuar.
    yo estic estudiant lo mateix xD!....
    <marquee>WWW.MEVALENCIANISTE.YA.ST
    WWW.FOROMEV.YA.ST</marquee>
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    Moviment Estudiantil Valencianiste

    El valencianisme jovenil mai es cansarà

    <

  4. #4
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 abr, 07
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    Valencia Kingdom, Spain
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    3,830
    [align=justify:89172e7f30]1. No podem parlar de geosinonims si parlem de sistemes llingüistics diferents, en este cas parlariem de traduccions.

    2. En tot cas, aceptant a priori (ex-ante) que parlem la mateixa llengua, el chiringuito del geosinonims es cau a terra si afegim al axioma que ells presenten per a justificar les diferencies gramaticals uns atres tambe molt importants per a identificar un sistema llingüistic: morfologia, fonetica, sintaxis (construccio d´oracions), i l´argument més important, que és la consciencia idiomatica historica diferent i diferenciada: els valencians diguem que parlem valencià, i aixina està documentat, des de fa més de 700 anys. Per tant, a posteriori (ex-post), el valencià té en comu en el dialecte catala original no molt més que en l´italià, el castellà o el mallorqui.

    Per a finalisar el tema, fer constar una cita molt gràfica: "El valenciano es una lengua neolatina, autóctona e independiente, derivado del romanç; que cumple las condiciones lingüísticas, sociolingüísticas y sociopolíticas, desarrollo de una brillante literatura, fonética y gramática propias, consciencia idiomática viva y generalizada, y deseo de asumir sus peculiaridades para ser considerada como idioma" (José Vte. Gómez Bayarri).

    Aixina m´ho adeprengui yo... [/align:89172e7f30]
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

  5. #5
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    l'explicacio es molt facil
    explicacio(versio panca):els valencians som aldeans subnormals i no tenim ni puta idea de parlar el nostre idioma
    explicacio(versio matrix):els cagalinos son com un virus.s'escampen matant tot lo que troben pel cami
    explicacio(meua):soles el idioma valencià te mes historia que tota la vostra historia cagalinos incults,i si parlem de tot lo demes,SOM VALENCIANS I PARLEM VALENCIA,NI SOM CATALANS NI VOLEM SER-HO.QUE VOS DONEN PER A ON AMARGUEN ELS PEPINOS,SI ELS PEPINOS.i estic molt d'acort en que hem d'actuar,dime quan i a on
    VIXCA LA REAL SENYERA CORONÀ
    VIXCA LA MARE DE DEU DELS DESAMPARATS
    VIXCA LA LLENGUA VALENCIANA
    VIXCA LO REGNE DE VALÉNCIA
    FORA TRAÏDORS DE LA NOSTRA TERRA ¡¡¡YA!!!

  6. #6
    Mestre de lo Regne Avatar de BILLYJOE
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    18 nov, 07
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    Propet l'Albufera
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    2,798
    O el diran una es la forma culta (EL CATALA)y atra es la forma inculta (La valenciana) y tu li pots dir ta mare es una puta o tu eres un fill de puta.

  7. #7
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 abr, 07
    Ubicación
    Valencia Kingdom, Spain
    Mensajes
    3,830
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    Cita Iniciado por pako
    l'explicacio es molt facil
    explicacio(versio panca):els valencians som aldeans subnormals i no tenim ni puta idea de parlar el nostre idioma
    Aixina és, Pako: mos fan creure que som analfabets per utilisar i reconeixer les caracteristiques propies del valencià, que no és més que una variant dialectal, prou vulgar i populachera, per cert, d´un totum superior que és "la llengua estàndard", la creacio del quimic Fabra. Ixe és un dogma arrelat en molts valencians, en els quals han impres un compleix d´inferioritat.

    Valencians, no som ni paletos, ni provincians, ni inferiors... no som "la periferia catalana". Som VALENCIANS. I si alguns som "analfabets" per no coneixer la nostra llengua no és culpa nostra, la culpa és d´aquells que no mos han deixat adeprendre lo propi i mos han imposat un "alien".[/align:071057d12b]
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    17 abr, 08
    Ubicación
    Pedralba
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    655
    Cita Iniciado por SomValencians.es
    [align=justify:0dd92ca18c]
    Cita Iniciado por pako
    l'explicacio es molt facil
    explicacio(versio panca):els valencians som aldeans subnormals i no tenim ni puta idea de parlar el nostre idioma
    Aixina és, Pako: mos fan creure que som analfabets per utilisar i reconeixer les caracteristiques propies del valencià, que no és més que una variant dialectal, prou vulgar i populachera, per cert, d´un totum superior que és "la llengua estàndard", la creacio del quimic Fabra. Ixe és un dogma arrelat en molts valencians, en els quals han impres un compleix d´inferioritat.

    Valencians, no som ni paletos, ni provincians, ni inferiors... no som "la periferia catalana". Som VALENCIANS. I si alguns som "analfabets" per no coneixer la nostra llengua no és culpa nostra, la culpa és d´aquells que no mos han deixat adeprendre lo propi i mos han imposat un "alien".[/align:0dd92ca18c]
    tu si que t'expliques be tio
    VIXCA LA REAL SENYERA CORONÀ
    VIXCA LA MARE DE DEU DELS DESAMPARATS
    VIXCA LA LLENGUA VALENCIANA
    VIXCA LO REGNE DE VALÉNCIA
    FORA TRAÏDORS DE LA NOSTRA TERRA ¡¡¡YA!!!

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    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    18 may, 08
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    Elig
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    5,856

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 abr, 07
    Ubicación
    Valencia Kingdom, Spain
    Mensajes
    3,830
    Pako, Lobivalentian, vosatros sou la meua inspiracio...

    Ara en serio: lo important és crear una nova actitut, rebujar el compleix que mos han volgut imprimir per a erigir-se ells a si mateix com "salvadors culturals"... Mosatros, els VALENCIANS, devem ser els nostres "salvadors culturals", i devem entendre i fer entendre que en la nostra casa, som soberans a l´hora de decidir lo que som i lo que volem ser, lo que hem sigut i lo que serem.
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    Creuat de lo Regne Avatar de ALQUERIA
    Fecha de ingreso
    30 ene, 08
    Ubicación
    Chirivella
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    2,358
    EL PAREGUT ENTRE LA LLENGUA VALENCIANA I EL DIALECTE BARCELONI NO ES NI MES NI MANCO QUE PER AÇO:
    http://www.garciamoya.110mb.com/valencianizar.htm
    ACOSTUMBREU_SE A DIR BARCELONI NO CATALA SI NO LI DONAREM UNA CATEGORIA QUE MAI A TINGUT EL INFAME E INFECTO DIALECTE BARCELONI.

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