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arzobispado en contra del catalanismo d la AVL del PP-PSOE

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  1. #1
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    arzobispado en contra del catalanismo d la AVL del PP-PSOE

    http://www.valenciahui.com/noticia.p...ncia_los_exabr


    La Iglesia tilda de "injerencia" los exabruptos de Ascensión Figueres
    27.06.08 | 02:00. Archivado en Gent

    Redacción (Vh).- "Una lengua para la paz". Así de concreto se manifestó el arzobispo de Valencia el 18 de julio de 2004 ante la problemática de la lengua. Desde entonces “este es el texto de referencia al que aludimos para recordar la postura del arzobispado en esta materia”, comentan fuentes eclesiales.

    La Iglesia se ha visto en la necesidad de salir al paso a las declaraciones de la presidenta de la Academia Valenciana de la Lengua (AVL), Ascensión Figueres, en el diario catalanista Avui. En ellas, Figueres arremetió contra el arzobispado de Valencia porque se niega a aprobar los textos litúrgicos en catalán: “Desde 2002 vienen dándonos malas excusas para no hacerlo. Hemos tenido demasiada paciencia, cuando hay una demanda de una parte muy importante de la Iglesia que quiere hacer la misa en valenciano. Finalmente los editaremos y distribuiremos sin la aprobación del arzobispado”.

    Al respecto explican fuentes del arzobispado que “hemos tenido noticia de las declaraciones de la presidenta de la AVL a través del periódico Avui, pero ella no se ha dirigido a nosotros para confirmar o desmentir esta información. Efectivamente, se trata de una intromisión e injerencia en lo que se refiere a editar por su cuenta el misal en valenciano y distribuirlo ellos. Además, es una falta de sentido común, pues los misales carecerían de valor litúrgico”.
    <font>Seran borrats mensages:</font></span><font>Atacs o amenaces. Publicitat comercial. Informació privada d´un internauta o colectiu. Obscenitats, insults. Pancatalanistes. Provocadors... </font></span></p>

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    http://www.valenciahui.com/opinion/b...rea_a_figueres



    El Arzobispado le arrea a Figueres
    27.06.08 | 01:51. Archivado en Columnas

    Las palabras de Ascensió Figueres en Avui son una injerencia, una intromisión y una falta de sentido común”. Así de claro lo ha dicho uno de los portavoces del Arzobispado de Valencia, al ser preguntado sobre qué le parecía la chulería de la presidenta de la Academia Valenciana de la Lengua, en el periódico catalán, al decir que con la Iglesia habían tenido “demasiada paciencia”, ya que desde 2002 no atendía a sus peticiones de que aprobara el Misal catalanista que ha preparado la sucursal en Valencia del Instituto de Estudios Catalanes.

    “Con la Iglesia hemos topado, Sancho”, diría El Quijote. Segundo encontronazo del PP con la Iglesia, que tanto quiere ser de centro y abandonar la derecha, que ya parece más beligerante y anticlerical que el PSOE.

    La Figueres hace honor a su apellido y está en la higuera, sin saber cómo funcionan las cosas de la Iglesia.

    A pesar de que hay un canónigo jubilado en el seno de la “bien pagá” AVL, no debe saber esta catalanista de pro, de las que como el Consell nunca han negado tres veces la “unitat de la llengua”, que la aprobación de textos litúrgicos en lenguas autóctonas es cosa del Vaticano, donde, por desgracia para los valencianos, hay un clérigo catalán por allí, esperando hacer la “escabichina” de turno.

    Recuerden, por ejemplo, cómo en la última ceremonia de beatificaciones no se utilizó la Lengua Valenciana en la Oratio Fidelium y solamente se empleó el euskera, catalán y gallego, gracias a tamaño asesor lingüístico catalanista-independentista que se ha agenciado Roma.

    Los escasos curas catalanistas que hay en la Diócesis de Valencia, abanderados por un fraile mallorquín, llevan desde los años 70 del pasado siglo entablando una larga guerra para que los textos litúrgicos en la Iglesia Católica Valenciana sean en catalán y no en Lengua Valenciana.

    Su pretensión es catalanizar la liturgia valenciana, atentado en toda regla a la Iglesia Valentina, a la personalidad de Valencia y a los sentimientos del pueblo valenciano, que hasta el momento es de mayoría valencianista, no catalanista.

    La pancada puso en circulación en aquella ocasión el Misal del fraile Riutort, que fue objeto de división y polémica, el cual empleaba palabras engañosas donde se intentaba hacer creer que era un Misal oficial, crasa mentira, Misal, por cierto, que sigue siendo utilizado en las Misas por los curas pancas de este territorio eclesiástico.

    El Misal de la AVL que la Figueres, creyéndose la Papisa Juana, quiere imponer a la fuerza y sin permiso del Arzobispado en circulación entre los curas y las parroquias -no les extrañe que lo regalen ‘ad maiorem gloriam’ del catalanismo que patrocina el PP- es un Misal notoriamente ilegal, por cuanto que infringe el Código de Derecho Canónico y las disposiciones, tanto conciliares como posconciliares, de la Santa Sede en materia de textos litúrgicos.

    La legislación al respecto es muy severa y rigurosa por cuanto “la Iglesia considera los libros litúrgicos como un objeto sagrado, y en su funcionalidad y uso los valora como elemento de unidad y regla práctica de fe”.

    Y lo único que va a conseguir el PP y la Figueres es vaciar más aún las Iglesias de lo que están, pues es de estadística elemental que quienes acuden hoy a los cultos de los templos no son precisamente los catalanistas, que suelen brillar por su ausencia, hecho este que reconocen y no esconden los promotores de la idea y proyecto.

    El PP, que tanto utiliza, abusa y se aprovecha de la Iglesia en sus actos externos populares -procesiones sobre todo- para hacerse la foto y captar votos, últimamente se ha desmadrado, en su arrogancia de partido de derecha, se ha permitido el dislate de llegar a amenazarla (González Pons, Figueres), lo cual tiene mucho de inmoralidad y esquizofrenia, de iluminismo.

    Todo apunta a que se ha dado vía libre, luz verde, al catalanismo contenido, escondido y parapetado tras las gaviotas y las siglas del PP, y el fenómeno de moda va a inundar todos los campos, sectores y tierras valencianas. El presidente Camps debe estar orgulloso y satisfecho de todo lo que está ocurriendo y de que va a pasar a la historia como el jefe y pastor del catalanismo total en tierras valencianas.



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  3. #3
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    vixca camps,pons,figueres i companyia,aixina se treballa per i per als valencians.traïdors,¿coneixeu al vostre pare?¿no?puix es satanàs.
    VIXCA LA REAL SENYERA CORONÀ
    VIXCA LA MARE DE DEU DELS DESAMPARATS
    VIXCA LA LLENGUA VALENCIANA
    VIXCA LO REGNE DE VALÉNCIA
    FORA TRAÏDORS DE LA NOSTRA TERRA ¡¡¡YA!!!

  4. #4
    Mestre de lo Regne
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    Ascensió Figueres

  5. #5
    Coronel de lo Regne
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    Estos Peperos, se estan guanyant el oix de tot lo mon...........que seguixquen aixina, que en el 2011 ya vorem!!!

  6. #6
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    a este pas,en 2011 va a canviar molt el panorama polític.
    VIXCA LA REAL SENYERA CORONÀ
    VIXCA LA MARE DE DEU DELS DESAMPARATS
    VIXCA LA LLENGUA VALENCIANA
    VIXCA LO REGNE DE VALÉNCIA
    FORA TRAÏDORS DE LA NOSTRA TERRA ¡¡¡YA!!!

  7. #7
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    I com l'Iglesia cedixca ho te clar. Si ya tenen poca clientela, en el missal en català es quedarien mes soles que la una.

    Com diuen Mestalla i Pako, en el 2011 tenen que canviar moltes coses, perque estos del PP ya s'han destapat del tot. Pero no nomes en el tema del valencianisme, sino en tot lo demes que mos afecta a la nostra vida: sanitat (cada volta pijor, la estan desmantelant), educacio (aço si que es per a plorar), infraestructures (tindrem AVE quan la especie humana s'haja extinguit), etc. etc. etc.

  8. #8
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
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    Vivan los curetas salaos que pasan de la movida pancaaa...
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

  9. #9
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    això,ara que li diguen als cures dels pobles,que donen la missa en valencià perque no saben parlar en castellà,que tenen que parlar en barceloní,"vamos" això si que té que ser digne de vore,me pixe damunt.
    VIXCA LA REAL SENYERA CORONÀ
    VIXCA LA MARE DE DEU DELS DESAMPARATS
    VIXCA LA LLENGUA VALENCIANA
    VIXCA LO REGNE DE VALÉNCIA
    FORA TRAÏDORS DE LA NOSTRA TERRA ¡¡¡YA!!!

  10. #10
    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    Lo que té que fer l'iglesia catolica és pegar una punyada en la taula i dir ¡PROU YA! al catalanisme que s'està ficant dins de l'Iglesia.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

  11. #11
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Arzobispado. gracies per aixir al pas de la dona esta.

    Arzobispado de valencia .-¿ A on estaveu en les ultimes canonisacions ? ¿ alsareu la veu ?

  12. #12
    Coronel de lo Regne
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    A vore si l'iglesia pren cartes en la catalanisacio constat que patix la nostra TERRA VALENCIANA YA ESTA BE COLLONS
    Gav Gandia

    GAV des de 1977 fent valencianisme y mes forts que mai...

  13. #13
    Senyor de lo Regne Avatar de Lancastrian
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    Me felicito que al menos el arzobispado en esto ha hecho lo correcto y digno:no se podia esperar menos.

  14. #14
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    01 may, 07
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    gracies al arzobispado per algun lloc es tenia que començar el parar al catalanisme de la dichosa avl

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