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Tios hay faena, enlace para crear la wiki en valenciano

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  1. #1
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    Tios hay faena, enlace para crear la wiki en valenciano

    ...aquÃ* tienes el link para que empieces si estás verdaderamente interesado en defender la lengua valenciana . No tengo ningún problema para que exista el wikipedia valenciano, pero lo que digo es que nadie se ha dignado a hacerlo cuando otros si que se han esforzado para que otras lenguas como el asturiano, o el
    liguariano tengan representación. ( Pues igual tiene razón, no se si valdra la pena, pero este es el enlace.)

    AquÃ* tienes:
    Do you want to start a Wikipedia in a new language?

    http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/How_t..._new_Wikipedia

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    http://blogs.periodistadigital.com/p...igpaisos_catal

    Por cierto es una comentario de una artÃ*culo de Periodistadigital.com sobre el Google cacalán.

  3. #3
    Cavaller Centenar
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    Yo ajudaria, pero el enllaç que has posat esta tot en ingles i yo no m'entere de res. Si la pagina estiguera en castella o italia puix encara...
    <div style=\'text-align:center\'>...En l\'orgull de sentir-se valencià està la clau de ser-ho...</div>

  4. #4
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    Pues mai englis es collonut.

    Vere que puedo hacer, pero seguro que hay alguien por aquÃ* que puede aportar más.

    ¿ La colegui esa de las bahamas que está de tan buen ver?

  5. #5
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    Yo ara voy muy liao, debo un reportaje a la web, el calendario no es tan facil como parecia, me estoy sacando el carnet... pero contar conmigo para hacer lo que pueda, que es un poquito cada dia.

    Jesvalen espero que este enlace te sirva, solo tienes que poner la direccion de la web para que se traduzca al castellano, aunque no es una traduccion exacta y a ratos hay que utilizar la imaginacion:
    http://traductor.ya.com/default.asp

  6. #6
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    Yo se algo de inglés, y tengo amigos que lo dominan, asÃ* que no hay problema, pero me parece que antes de poder hacer la wikipedia en valenciano, cosa que se me ocurrió hace ya tiempo, debemos tener el código aquel que identifique el idioma valenciano. Miradlo y cuando esteis seguros, decidme algo y empezaremos si quereis.

  7. #7
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    En ingles el experto es el mai_mos_fareu_catalans y como no nuestra amiga Ducker.

    Venga poneos manos a la obra a y a ver si conseguimos algo.


  8. #8
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    Hola, pues mas o menos, esto es lo que pone:


    -Primero dice que hay que elegir el idioma, despues dice q si necesitas ayuda puedes recurrir a algun amigo o usuario de wikimedia

    -Segundo: en "Start on the pages thenselves", crear una página principal. / Como editar una página(Aqui hay que traducir el "como editar la pagina")

    -Tercero: Adicionar un enlace a la lista de idiomas disponibles en Wikipedias, adicionar tu idiopma a la lista de idiomas de wikipedia(si es ya no esta)

    -Cuarto:Traducir la interface al idioma correspondiente y preparar la página de la comunidad

    Y luego ya :-Obedecer y fijar las reglas de wikimedia
    -Adicionar un reglas de estilos y recursos para los "escritores"
    -Escribir buenos articulos para que sea un ejemplo a los demas.
    -Y siempre que se pueda colaborar con otras paginas Wikipedia en tu idioma y incluso en otros idiomas.


    Lo mejor que podemos hacer es coger y traducir lo básico que pone, y empezar a poner artÃ*culos de otros idiomas traducidos, decirle a compañeros que se animen a escribir en Wikipedia, pero sobre todo: TENER UN VOCABULARIO Y ORTOGRAFÍA PARA TODOS IGUAL. LO MEJOR QUE PODEMOS HACER ES COGER TODOS UN DICCIONARIO Y VOCABULARIO IGUAL, COMO POR EJEMPLO EL DE LA RACV Y USAR LAS PALABRAS Y REGLAS QUE TRAE. Porque si no, no nos tomarán en serio, y hay que contar con que los pancas nos intentarán joder los artÃ*culos, asÃ* que haced copias de todo lo que escribais.

    Básicamente, eso es lo que pone, saludos y ya sabeis.

  9. #9
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    Alguien ha leido lo que he escrito antes???? En http://traductor.ya.com/default.asp pones la direccion que quieres traducir y te traduce toda la pagina, incluso cuando navegues por dentro te va traduciendo los enlaces. Peo bueno, alla vosotros

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    23 abr, 06
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    Como recordareis inicié un proyecto para crear una web documental sobre la cultura valenciana, no sin antes haber pasado por la wikipedia y haber comprobado lo controlada que está por el catalanismo. Casi podrÃ*a decir que lo que me dió la idea para la web fue esto.

    Debeis tener muy en cuenta una serie de factores que a mi en su momento ya me hicieron desechar la idea de hacer la wikipedia en valenciano.

    Lo principal es que el catalanismo ha cogido posiciones fuertes dentro de la jerarquÃ*a de mando de la wikipedia, hay wikipedistas valencianistas pero no pueden hacer nada. Si intentais crear la wikipedia en valenciano os van a poner toda clase de trabas, para la wikipedia valenciano y catalán son lo mismo. Incluso en caso de que la creeis, esa wikipedia no va a ser vuestra, los catalanistas van a entrar como bibliotecarios y os la van a sabotear todo lo que puedan, quitan lo que pongais y poniendo los artÃ*culos catalanes, bloqueando los artÃ*culos, etc. O sea, en el mejor de los casos vais a iniciar una guerra dificil de ganar.

    Por otro lado, y muy importante, la wikipedia es inmensa, la fuerza de trabajo necesaria para llevar adelante una traducción es de al menos varias decenas de personas trabajando. Es por eso que empecé un proyecto mucho más pequeño pero centrado en lo que nos interesa y más está siendo manipulado, nuestra historia y nuestra cultura.

    Lo dicho, si quereis uniros a mi proyecto en cualquier momento estais a tiempo. Si llevais adelante lo de la wikipedia si os puedo ayudar en algo me lo decÃ*s, pero no soy optimista.

    Vixcayo, perdona por no haber traducido lo de los códigos ISO, esto podrÃ*a ser tambien útil para la wikipedia, no lo sé. Cuando pueda te envÃ*o una traducción, es que he estado un poco ocupado últimamente.

    Saludos.

  11. #11
    Senyor de lo Regne Avatar de POPEPO
    Fecha de ingreso
    01 ene, 05
    Ubicación
    VALENCIA
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    4,371
    VAIG A VORE

  12. #12
    Senyor de lo Regne Avatar de POPEPO
    Fecha de ingreso
    01 ene, 05
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    VALENCIA
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    VALE, YO CREO QUE SE COMO HACERLO... PERO NO SE NADA DE ESCRIBIR EN VALENCIANO CORRECTO. SI ALGUIEN ME AYUDARA... CREO QUE PODRIAMOS HACERLO.

    MAI MOS FARAN CATALANS

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