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Tema: Sergio (depor) considera al català, gallec i asturià dialect

  1. #16
    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de Fayostros
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    Polastre... me estas fent que me facha mal la pancha de tant de riure tio !!!!!!!!!



    Entonses............

    Pa tu el "CONDE LEQUIO"........

    QUE HA COMPRAT EL TITUL EN UNA TENDA DE TOT A 1€..........

    TAMBÉ ES CONDE??????

    Si, clar y també REY DE TOMBOLA !!!!!!!!!!











    Ell que te..........

    ¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿ PITO DE ORO ??????????


    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
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  2. #17
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    a mio tambe me fa molta gracia la teua forma de desviar els temes a un sensesentit, i on no tenen trellat, q es el teu millor camp, l'unic q saps "defendre't" a traves de la descalificacio personal i convertint una discusio algo seria en un circo.

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    Exacte..... ya som 2...

    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

  4. #19
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    Esto ya da asco, no hay ni un solo día en el que no haya mal rollo (y curiosamente, últimamente siempre que hay mal rollo están los mismos por medio... ¿casualidad?) Esto ya parece el patio de una guardería, todos comportándose como niños de 2-3 años, y casi que ni eso, porque mi primo de 2 años aún se comporta mejor que a veces algunos de aquí.

    De verdad, asco da esto ya.

  5. #20
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    El Sergio eixe no té molta raó...

  6. #21
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    home, les coses clares les te, pero massa acertades no xD
    Pues yo creo que lo tiene muy claro.


    El gallego dialecto del portugues, el catalán del provenzal , con el asturiano podríamos discutir.


    "Infame e infecto dialecto barceloní". Está clarisimo
    La mateixa excusa que tu poses per a dir que el gallec es dialecte del portugués, els catalans la posen per a dir que el valencià és dialecte del català.

    No sigau tan tancats de mentalitat, el català és una llengua i punt, no hi ha res més que vore. Per eixa regla de tres, el valencià i el castellà són dialectes del llatí.
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  7. #22
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    val, una pregunta "infame e infecto dialecto barceloní" si el català no es llengua, ¿de qui es dialecte el barceloní?

  8. #23
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    La mateixa excusa que tu poses per a dir que el gallec es dialecte del portugués, els catalans la posen per a dir que el valencià és dialecte del català.

    No sigau tan tancats de mentalitat, el català és una llengua i punt, no hi ha res més que vore. Per eixa regla de tres, el valencià i el castellà són dialectes del llatí.
    a) Respecto al primer párrafo, por esa misma regla de tres, demuestra con más fuerza la valencianización de Lérida y alrededores precisamente ... No obstante, ya he dicho que respecto al caso gallego y portugués, no conozco los intríngulis históricos de estos dos territorios, por lo que me abstengo de opinar ...
    b) Los dialectos del latín son precisamente los que están catalogados como Lenguas o Idiomas latinos ... Un dialecto es el dialecto de uno de estos idiomas.
    c) Que un químico cubano, cogiera el provenzal, le introdujera 4 barbarismos para diferenciarlo y creara una ortografía con un par de fines concretos, no significa que un dialecto pase, de la noche a la mañana, a convertirse en un idioma ... La conversión del catalán en idioma, no obedece a criterios lingüísticos ni científicos, sino políticos ... Siguiendo las mismas directrices que ha seguido dicha lengua, no os extrañe que, dentro de un siglo, el "Cheli" de Madrid esté reconocido como idioma siguiendo casi las mismas directrices y además, oficial ... Tiempo al tiempo ...

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    A vore. He trobat açó en la Cardona







    Como diría "Xekespeare" "Ser o no ser". El tema no es querer ser y ala, ahora lengua que me gusta más, el asunto es serlo o no serlo. Si miras los escritos de Lanuza, hay uno muy interesante donde explica los requisitos para ser lengua. Y el catalán, no cumple casi ninguno, por dejarles el casi.

    Por eso nos quieren robar y fusionar la lengua valenciana.

  10. #25
    Mestre de lo Regne
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    Cita Iniciado por Rudyweiss
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    home, les coses clares les te, pero massa acertades no xD
    Pues yo creo que lo tiene muy claro.

    El gallego dialecto del portugues, el catalán del provenzal , con el asturiano podríamos discutir.

    "Infame e infecto dialecto barceloní". Está clarisimo
    Del gallego, tendría que yo conocer la historia de Galicia para saber si los gallegos crearon su lengua, o se la llevaron los portugueses a Galicia huyendo del moro, de la misma forma que muchos valencianos huyeron a Lérida, Sur de Tarragona y extremo sureste de Aragón ... Es que me pilla superlejos de Aragón ...

    pero el catalán, provenzal mal hablado y pésimamente escrito es, ya que cierto químico cubano lo diseñó para jugar a los soldaditos, a las cruzaditas, a las batallitas y a las colonias ...

    El vasco o euskera SÍ es un idioma, me atrevería a decir que es incluso el ÚNICO IDIOMA REALMENTE ESPAÑOL QUE EXISTE, DE RAÍZ CELTÍBERA, MAL QUE LES PESE A LOS ETARRAS Y PROETARRAS, ya que es anterior a las Guerras Púnicas Romanas, no como el castellano, que deriva del latín, lengua traída por el invasor y genocida romano, aunque luego 8 siglos de ocupación arabe sirviesen para hacer posible que el 8% de su vocabulario sea árabe ... ¿Sabíais que el parecido que tiene el texto del bronce de Botorrita, en celtíbero, respecto al euskera, es relativamente increíble? ¿Sabíais que hay un río en la provincia de Gerona, que su nombre, el "Muga", es vasco y significa "Frontera"?

    No puedo mentar al valenciano porque el supuesto valenciano oficial reconocido en el Estatuto de Autonomía, tiene de valenciano lo que yo de cura: no es lo mismo lengua valenciana que "català amb eixida" ...

    El aranés está catalogado como dialecto del gascón ...

    En cambio, no figuran como oficiales lenguas latinas que podrían ser perfectamente idiomas, si no todos, al menos parte de ellos: unas 5 o 6 lenguas aragonesas, el asturianu o bable, el cantabriegu o montañés, el murciano o panocho (que parece ser una extraña mezcla de castellano, mozárabe, aragonés preferentemente churro, valenciano y otras ...), el castúo o extremeño, el sayagüés, el mirandés (que sólo oficial en territorio portugués), el leonés (el mirandés podría ser dialecto suyo), ...
    y sin olvidarnos del casi desaparecido Kaló, lengua hablada por algunos gitanos, hermana del hindí y por tanto, de origen Sanscrito ...

    Rudy como siempre bien documentado

  11. #26
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    "No sigau tan tancats de mentalitat, el català és una llengua i punt, no hi ha res més que vore."



    "fins on yo se, en asturies estan peleant per a crear un ent normativisador i fer-lo oficial en l'estatut d'autonomia. Per tant es podria considerar tambe idioma."



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  12. #27
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    el catalán es un dialecto, no es un idioma.
    "el hombre es para la mujer y la mujer para el hombre".

    Totalmente de acuerdo con estas 2 afirmaciones de sergio,se nota que tiene las ideas claras.

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