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  1. #1
    Cavaller Centenar Avatar de Falcata
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    12 ago, 07
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    MENSAJE PARA LOS DE ERC

    Las expectativas de voto de ERC para las próximas autonómicas se hunden un 50%


    Una encuesta de preferencias electorales ha demostrado que, si hoy hubiese en Cataluña unas elecciones autonómicas, Esquerra Republicana obtendría tan sólo doce escaños, de los veintiuno que posee en la actualidad, según una fuente de CiU consultada por este diario, que asegura que dicho sondeo está también en manos de ERC. Asimismo, una fuente del PSC que también conoce esta encuesta afirma que “esta posibilidad nos preocupa mucho, porque de convertirse en realidad, después de las próximas elecciones sería matemáticamente imposible repetir un Tripartito. Por lo tanto, hay que ir preparando otra solución. Prescindir de la realidad equivale a ser víctima de la misma”.

    Se trata de un cambio de tendencia que se mantiene desde hace muchos meses. Puede acentuarse en el futuro, debido a las infinitas tensiones internas dentro de ERC. Dividida en tres grandes fracciones, y otras de menores, Esquerra está llevando a cabo diversos congresos regionales (de regiones internas de Cataluña) en los cuales no destaca ninguna tendencia clara. La victoria de unos en una zona es seguida de su derrota en otra y viceversa. Es decir, hay una generalización del caudillismo.



    En las elecciones generales del pasado marzo, ERC cayó de ocho diputados a tres, un descenso equivalente a una pérdida de 349.000 votos. En las municipales del año 2007, en 103 municipios catalanes de más de diez mil habitantes, de cada cien votos de ERC en los comicios precedentes, 74 prefirieron la abstención. En el ayuntamiento de Barcelona perdió ochenta mil votos y un concejal, por lo que decidió abandonar la coalición municipal.



    Un cálculo sobre el resultado que obtendría ERC si hubiesen elecciones municipales en Barcelona, realizado por un miembro del PSC a partir de datos porcentuales obtenidos en una encuesta del propio municipio, arroja que Esquerra perdería entre uno y dos concejales. De hecho, tanto en el PSC como en CiU creen que Iniciativa también sufrirá un descenso de votos, pero menor. Fuentes de los dos grandes partidos catalanes coinciden también en que la alternativa denominada “sociovergència” es una posibilidad cada día más fuerte, si bien genera reticencias. Con matices, afirman que podía ser la opción preferida por José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero y que la crisis económica la hacía más probable.



    Mientras desde CiU afirman que su coalición ha aumentado sus expectativas de voto, tanto a nivel autonómico como municipal, y que hoy se situaría como mínimo a doce escaños del PSC, los socialistas catalanes aseguran que la coalición nacionalista está “estancada”. No obstante, todos los datos indican que CiU continuaría obteniendo más escaños autonómicos que el PSC.



    Artur Mas lideraría una 'socioconvergència'



    Ahí reside el problema, ya que en el marco institucional catalán el papel clave reside en el presidente de la Generalidat y es imposible que una hipotética “sociovergència” no atribuyese dicho cargo al líder del partido con más escaños, es decir, a Artur Mas. Hoy es así y todo indica que lo será en el futuro, salvo cambios impredecibles. Dentro de CiU, el socio menor, Unión Democrática de Cataluña, juega sólo a que Duran Lleida sea ministro en el gobierno central. El resto es secundario.



    En Convergencia hay más complejidad. Existe la sombra de Pujol y la de Felip Puig. El primero siempre buscó su protagonismo personal. En tiempos cargó contra Miquel Roca Junyent y Ramón Trías Fargas. Después, se opuso a que Joan Rigol fuese presidente del Senado, como quería Aznar. Hoy Pujol sólo desea que su hijo Oriol sea presidente de la Generalidat. Un período de presidencia de Artur Mas podría complicar sus planes. Cabe recordar que en su día Jacques Chirac prefirió que Mitterrand fuese presidente de Francia, en vez de Valéry Giscard D’Estaing, para asegurar sus futuras posibilidades, al margen de idearios.



    Respecto al soberanista Felip Puig no hay que olvidar que preferiría un pacto entre CDC y Esquerra. La pregunta que ahora cobra actualidad es: ¿Puig y eventualmente Pujol también desean un pacto con una Esquerra en caída libre?



    En todo caso las alternativas ideológicas y políticas de CiU son un tema real, sobre el cual ironizaba el portavoz socialista Joan Ferran, diciendo “con CDC tenemos un problema: un día se levanta más soberanista, otro se levanta más pragmática”. Quizás la situación de ERC liquide esta contraposición, que debe ser vista con interés en el resto de España.


    ERC SE HUNDE!!




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  2. #2
    Coronel de lo Regne
    Fecha de ingreso
    21 may, 07
    Ubicación
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    Adeu Pankes jajajaja Adeu Dines jajajjajaj

    Pero Enlerta que el PP podria fermos pols en tant de poder, espere que la gent els faja pagar per no DEFENDRE LO NOSTRE.
    Gav Gandia

    GAV des de 1977 fent valencianisme y mes forts que mai...

  3. #3
    Senyor de lo Regne Avatar de anticatalanista
    Fecha de ingreso
    07 oct, 06
    Ubicación
    Reino de Valencia
    Mensajes
    4,376
    si no los votan en Cataluña y aquí son residuales....a que aspiran estos energumenos?

    PANCAS SE OS ACABA EL CHOLLO!!

  4. #4
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 abr, 07
    Ubicación
    Valencia Kingdom, Spain
    Mensajes
    3,830
    Hasta luego Lucaaaaas...

    (Os seguís cubriendo de gloria).
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

  5. #5
    General de lo Regne Avatar de paco1983
    Fecha de ingreso
    16 may, 07
    Ubicación
    Gandia
    Mensajes
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    mensaje para erc:

    IROS A DAR POR CULO A CATALUÑA QUE EN VALENCIA NO OS QUIEREN NI LAS RATAS

  6. #6
    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    25 ago, 06
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    Despres d'esta noticia igual els pega per ser valencianistes als d'ERPV.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

  7. #7
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    01 may, 07
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    763
    per mi se pot afonar fins al 100% puix esta gentola asi no te res que fer

  8. #8
    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    17 abr, 08
    Ubicación
    Pedralba
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    Cita Iniciado por Valencianot
    Despres d'esta noticia igual els pega per ser valencianistes als d'ERPV.
    puix que se'n vagen a fer valencianisme a cagalonia
    VIXCA LA REAL SENYERA CORONÀ
    VIXCA LA MARE DE DEU DELS DESAMPARATS
    VIXCA LA LLENGUA VALENCIANA
    VIXCA LO REGNE DE VALÉNCIA
    FORA TRAÏDORS DE LA NOSTRA TERRA ¡¡¡YA!!!

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de llunablava
    Fecha de ingreso
    16 sep, 08
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    3,517
    que les den por culo!!!

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    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    09 oct, 08
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    564
    ajaj parece k los pancas vuelvan a casa por navidad xD

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    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    Picassent
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    Cita Iniciado por pako
    puix que se'n vagen a fer valencianisme a cagalonia
    Ahi ahi, aixina si lis tenen que pegar ad algu que els peguen ad ells. xD

    Per bonyigolis.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

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