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  1. #1
    Tinent de lo Regne
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    Ajuda per a gent que vol parlar en valencià.

    Hola, he estat mirant la uiquipèdia (wikipedia en valencià) i ya m'he trobat més d'una vegada a gent que parla castellà pero que vol aportar algo a la uiquipedia i fiquen el passat perifràstic de l'AVL

    Per eixemple:

    Yo vaig anar
    Tu vas anar
    Ell va anar
    Mosatros vam anar
    Vosatros vau anar
    Ells van anar

    i NO no es aixina, en realitat, per a que la gent s'informe (yo també m'equivoque de vegaes a l'hora d'escriure) es aixina:

    Yo vaig anar
    Tu VARES anar
    Ell va anar
    Mosatros VÀREM anar
    Vosatros VÀREU anar
    Ells VAREN anar..


    Informació al consumidor

    Salutacions!

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    Vares, varem, vareu i varen són tipics de l'Horta i de Valéncia ciutat i en la gran part de la zona de l'apichat, i les demés se solen dir més per la Ribera, La Safor, bo, i en el resto del Regne.

    Pero clar, si aixo ha sigut escrit per un chic de Valéncia ciutat, puix ya se sap, és lo que li han ensenyat en l'escola.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

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    Valencia_es_llengua, en la zona de Gandia diuen "Mosatros VAM anar". També és correcte!
    Nostra Real Senyera no s'agenolla davant ningu...

    ¡Gloria a la Patria, Vixca Valencia!

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    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    Un atra diferencia (entre atres) es que mentres en el "catalá" les oracions negatives les reforça en la paraula PAS "No passegis pas avui" mentres que en valenciá es "No passeges hui" simplement.

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    Valencia_es_llengua, en la zona de Gandia diuen "Mosatros VAM anar". També és correcte!

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    Yo soc d'apichat eh, yo ho he mirat en les conjugacions de la RACV i he dit, osties es veritat..

    a mi per eixemple no m'admet Mosatros vam anar... el vam (tinc corrector ortogràfic) m'ho fica com incorrecte.

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    Valencia_es_llengua, en la zona de Gandia diuen "Mosatros VAM anar". També és correcte!

    Pero (pregunte) en Gandia ho diuen aixina per l'AVL, per els panques (que hi han uns quants en Gandia) o esque de veritat es aixina com ho diuen??


    Dic yo que si la RACV diu que es aixina es perqeu es diu aixina per tot lo regne.. (a lo millor es pot llevar el nort que ya es barreja en el català)

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    Vares, varem, vareu i varen són tipics de l'Horta i de Valéncia ciutat i en la gran part de la zona de l'apichat, i les demés se solen dir més per la Ribera, La Safor, bo, i en el resto del Regne.

    Pero clar, si aixo ha sigut escrit per un chic de Valéncia ciutat, puix ya se sap, és lo que li han ensenyat en l'escola.
    He fet una enquesta. Tots coincidixen en el varem vareu varen

    Inclús u que és de Alacant..

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    yo crec que no és per la AVL..

    he sentit dir a gent valencianista: van, vam. Ademés és molt dificil que la gent parle com la AVL.. si el catalanisme duu més de 30 anys obligant-nos a dir "nosaltres" i no ho diuen ni ells, ara estos de la AVL que volen?
    Nostra Real Senyera no s'agenolla davant ningu...

    ¡Gloria a la Patria, Vixca Valencia!

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    yo crec que no és per la AVL..

    he sentit dir a gent valencianista: van, vam. Ademés és molt dificil que la gent parle com la AVL.. si el catalanisme duu més de 30 anys obligant-nos a dir "nosaltres" i no ho diuen ni ells, ara estos de la AVL que volen?

    No, no dic que siga per ser valencianiste o no, ho dic que pot haver sigut INCONSCIENTMENT.. Això pot passar eh...

    Es el cas dels dialectes del euskera a lo millor sigueren parlant els seus dialectes pero el que estiga el Batua ahi ha afectat poc a poc als seus dialectes, per això, pot ser que el perifrastic que no s'usa tant en el apichat i meridional haja segut una miqueta AVLceat :P

    O per qualsevol raó... :P

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    Mis tios son de La Safor y utilizan el van y vam y todo eso y son supervalencianistas además que no son de la época del catalán que enseñan hoy en dia.

    En cuanto al título del hilo tengo que decir que aunque vengo de familia castellanohablante yo tengo maás ganas que nadie de tener soltura para hablar valenciano y para escribirlo, pero no me atrevo a escribirlo porque haría muchas "barcelonadas".

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    Si pareix que el van i vam i tal pareix ser típic de la zona de la Safor i Ribera..

    Pot ser, pero PAREIX que és típic solament d'ahí perque ya s'ha dit en atres foros que en Alacant també es diu varem i varen i vares etc etc..

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    Tinent de lo Regne
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    Be, esta clarísim que la RACV lo que fa es utilisar les formes més POPULARS..

    Perque yo (Area apichat) diem Riquesa i Turista per a masculí i femení (segurament castellanisme)

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    Home... yo (àrea apichat) dic: Riquea i Turiste ( i aixina ho senc a la majoria de gent)
    Nostra Real Senyera no s'agenolla davant ningu...

    ¡Gloria a la Patria, Vixca Valencia!

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