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Catalunya no tendrá "símbolos nacionales"

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Tema: Catalunya no tendrá "símbolos nacionales"

  1. #1
    Tinent de lo Regne
    Fecha de ingreso
    09 oct, 08
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    4,716

    Catalunya no tendrá "símbolos nacionales"

    El Tribunal Constitucional (TC) se opone a que el Estatut proclame que Catalunya tiene "símbolos nacionales", según informa La Vanguardia. El sector conservador del Constitucional ha rechazado siempre la citada expresión, pero su postura es compartida ahora también por una parte del sector progresista.Pese a esto, se admite el termino nación en el preámbulo, pero no en otras referencias.

    Todo ello no hace peligrar el preámbulo del texto estatutario, ya que el Constitucional sigue admitiendo por mayoría que en esa parte introductoria de la norma pueda recogerse, en términos de relato histórico, que el Parlament declaró en su día que Catalunya es una nación. Pero el sector conservador rechaza que este tipo de manifestaciones se haga también en el articulado del Estatut. Este sector sostienen que una cosa es el preámbulo, sin efectos jurídicos, y otra muy distinta los artículos del texto estatutario.

    En estos momentos el equilibrio interno sería de 6 votos a 4 contra dicha disposición. Ello podría obligar a prescindir de los conceptos "símbolos nacionales" para referirse a la senyera y al himno de Catalunya. La Vanguardia explica en este sentido que esta situación está dificultando el avance general en la deliberación de la sentencia, ya que el sector progresista insiste en encontrar una fórmula de transacción que permita salvar el precepto relativo al reconocimiento de los símbolos sin impedir su adjetivación, dado el especial valor que la sociedad catalana ha dado históricamente al concepto de nacionalidad.

    El Constitucional delibera ahora si anula directamente la utilización de la expresión "símbolos nacionales", declarándola contraria a la Constitución, o si busca una fórmula que permita usar esos términos, pero con una cláusula interpretativa muy limitadora. Esta cláusula sería llevada no sólo a los argumentos de la sentencia, sino también al fallo, a su parte dispositiva. Con ello se perseguiría dejar absolutamente claro que todo uso de la expresión "símbolo nacional" en cualquier texto legal de aplicación o desarrollo del Estatut sería inconstitucional, salvo que se empleara en los estrictos términos que disponga el fallo.

    Si el equilibrio de fuerzas del Constitucional quedara 6 a 4 en ésta y otras cuestiones, la presidenta de la institución, María Emilia Casas, no tendría que hacer uso de su voto de calidad para deshacer empate alguno, como ocurriría de restablecerse el teórico equilibrio de igualdad a 5 votos entre los sectores conservador y progresista. Casas siempre ha intentado, sin embargo, que la sentencia del Estatut tenga el respaldo de una amplia mayoría, para que gane en peso y autoridad.

    http://politica.e-noticies.es/catalu...les-25986.html




    Si algun dia s'independiseu, que si heu feu ha de ser per un referendum democratic, podreu tornar a posar els simbols nacionals.

  2. #2
    Aspirant a Centenar
    Fecha de ingreso
    11 feb, 09
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    226

    Me acaba de alegrar el día esta noticia!

  3. #3
    Aspirant a Centenar
    Fecha de ingreso
    25 feb, 08
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    Reyne Baléà
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    83
    hoe llegit pero no ho entenc que voldí axode simbolos nacionaels? sinceramnt a jo em dona = ho q fagin es catalans mentres que no vulguien kedarsen ab atros comunitats ja va be pero es fastic es per sa gent catalana que se sent catala-espaniol pero no catalaniste...
    :: Som Baléà de pura xepa i mai catalana ::

    Sa al·lota des Regne de Maylorkes !*

  4. #4
    Aspirant a Centenar
    Fecha de ingreso
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    pero es fastic es per sa gent catalana que se sent catala-espaniol pero no catalaniste...
    qué significa "es fastic" ? no entiendo loq ue quieres decir... perdona...

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    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    18 may, 08
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    Elig
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    5,856
    ¿Simbolos nacionales?...supongo que se referiran al BURRO y la bandera aragonesa ROBADA jajaj
    Mas impresentables,imposible.

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    Sargent Centenar Avatar de delenda cat
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    pero es fastic es per sa gent catalana que se sent catala-espaniol pero no catalaniste...
    qué significa "es fastic" ? no entiendo loq ue quieres decir... perdona...
    En Valenciá "Oix" en Castellá "Asco"

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Seria una bonica campanya de COALICIO per les proximes eleccions, fer un eslogan:
    PER L'INDEPENDENCIA DE CATALUNYA I EUSKADI.
    A vore si mos deixen en pau de una vegá per totes, i podem tots disfrutar de com se moren de fam sense la gran mamella espanyola.

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    Tinent de lo Regne
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    jajaja, no hauria que impulsaro, simplement recolzar la seua independencia. Yo estic a favor de que es pugan fer els referendums per l'independencia.. Si no, no parlariem de un pais democrtic....

    I si feren aci un referendum per la unio de Valencia a Catalunya, com eixiria el NO, dixarien de tocar els ous.

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    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    09 oct, 08
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    564

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de RV-VCF
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    19 jun, 07
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    Mentres mos dixen en pau als Valencians i al Balears com si volen ser una isla

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    Sargent Centenar Avatar de franmis
    Fecha de ingreso
    20 dic, 07
    Ubicación
    Mislata
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    1,177
    Cita Iniciado por Lobivalentian
    ¿Simbolos nacionales?...supongo que se referiran al BURRO y la bandera aragonesa ROBADA jajaj
    Mas impresentables,imposible.

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Cita Iniciado por franmis
    Cita Iniciado por Lobivalentian
    ¿Simbolos nacionales?...supongo que se referiran al BURRO y la bandera aragonesa ROBADA jajaj
    Mas impresentables,imposible.
    amok asis es burro ja els definex jaja ells son uns burros per si matex jajaja.
    :: Som Baléà de pura xepa i mai catalana ::

    Sa al·lota des Regne de Maylorkes !*

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    Tinent de lo Regne Avatar de lobo_vcf
    Fecha de ingreso
    04 oct, 08
    Ubicación
    Regne de Valencia
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    4,589
    normal si por no tener ya nno tienen ni historia que de tanto modificarla ya no saben ni cuales son sus raizes xD no me estrañaria que cualquier dia digan va vamos haber cuales son nuestras raizes de verdad y no las puedan encontrar los muy gilipoyas xD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44n8J8FXFhM
    ORGULLOSO DE HABER LOGRADO SER EL VIDEO DE LA SEMANA ^^



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