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¿el catalanismo es nacionalismo o jingoísmo?

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Ver resultados de encuesta: ¿el catalanismo es nacionalismo o jingoísmo?

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  • nacionalismo

    2 15.38%
  • jingoísmo

    7 53.85%
  • otras

    4 30.77%
Resultados 1 al 12 de 12

Tema: ¿el catalanismo es nacionalismo o jingoísmo?

  1. #1
    Aspirant a Centenar
    Fecha de ingreso
    15 dic, 06
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    473

    ¿el catalanismo es nacionalismo o jingoísmo?

    tegno la duda, ya que me parece que llamarlos nacionalistas no es apropiado.
    bueno os dejo las deficiniciones y opinad, me quitareis esta comida de coco.
    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jingo%C3%ADsmo
    http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nacionalismo
    La verdad sobre los catalanistas.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXyMPz4i6lI

  2. #2
    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de 1245
    Fecha de ingreso
    04 oct, 08
    Ubicación
    Regne de Valencia
    Mensajes
    6,594
    Per lo que he llegit en la wikipedia, yo diria que el catalanisme que hi ha es "Jingoísmo"

    S'activa la maquinaria belica del Regne en la protocolaria colocacio de la Real Senyera en les Torres de Serrans; accio que significava la declaracio de guerra "a sanc i foc"

  3. #3
    Sargent Centenar Avatar de delenda cat
    Fecha de ingreso
    19 jul, 07
    Ubicación
    Tavernes Blanques
    Mensajes
    1,068
    yo opte per:

    El nacionalismo centrípeto
    Es el que pretende la unificación nacional de las poblaciones con características comunes que habitan en distintos estados, donde pueden ser minorías nacionales y por tanto en esos estados constituyen nacionalismos centrífugos (es el caso del nacionalismo kurdo), o bien ser estados nacionalmente homogéneos pero separados (es el caso de las unificaciones de Italia y Alemania en el siglo XIX, aunque en ambos casos el solapamiento con el Imperio Austrohúngaro complica la definición).

    Pero en este cas basantse e una inexistent unitat y homogeneitat

    usease

    El nacionalismo de "pa amb tumaca"
    Es el que pretende la unificación nacional de las poblaciones con características diferenciadas que habitan en un mismo estado, basándose en estudios, leyendas y fábulas absurdas e inventadas para justificar una supuesta "unidad"

  4. #4
    Aspirant a Centenar
    Fecha de ingreso
    14 feb, 09
    Ubicación
    NULES
    Mensajes
    390
    Los catalanes no son nacionalistas, son oportunistas, cuando les interesa son nacionalistas de cara al estado central para sacar dinero, presionar y mangonear. Y con respecto a tierras vecinas que les interesan son más centralistas que los franceses luego que no nos cuenten cuentos, en la actualidad parece mentira que en un estado, se supone civilizado, los Valencianos seamos tratados como los kurdos, no solo tratan de apoderarse de nuestro territorio, sinó de eliminar nuestra cultura etc...

    Me dan ganas de vomitar.

    reino, lengua, libertad y catalanes a casa

  5. #5
    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
    Fecha de ingreso
    18 may, 08
    Ubicación
    Elig
    Mensajes
    5,856
    Yo creo que es GILIPOLLISMO.


  6. #6
    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
    Fecha de ingreso
    19 abr, 06
    Ubicación
    La Cabaña de Grizzly Adams (Aragón - Gondwana)
    Mensajes
    10,346
    Una de las diferencias básicas del catalanismo con el jingoísmo (acabo de enterarme de lo que significa) es que aquellos, en principio, sustituyen la violencia por el dinero para compras de voluntades, previamente robado al supuesto "Estado centralista ocupante" ...

    De todos modos, en principio, el catalanismo lo defino como: ALDEANISMO ... no me cabe otro termino ... si acaso, con la addenda "DE MASÍA" ... pero nada más ...

    Si acaso ... también podría definirlo como "PROTO-NAZISMO MEDIO REFORMADO" ...

  7. #7
    Sargent Centenar Avatar de MiTierra
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 dic, 07
    Ubicación
    Vall dels Alcalans
    Mensajes
    1,213
    Puix yo el catalanisme el definiria com a FARISEISME FANTASIOS.
    I en lo de fariseisme, no em referixc a la religió judia, si no, a la hipocresía.
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


  8. #8
    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
    Fecha de ingreso
    19 abr, 06
    Ubicación
    La Cabaña de Grizzly Adams (Aragón - Gondwana)
    Mensajes
    10,346
    Cita Iniciado por MiTierra
    I en lo de fariseisme, no em referixc a la religió judia, si no, a la hipocresía.
    Es que en realidad, el fariseísmo no es la religión judía ... sólo fue una de las antiguas sectas de la misma, un Opus Dei en versión judía, que existían en la época de ChusCristo, conviviendo con otras como los Publicanos o los Saduceos ...

    Y efectivamente, el principal defecto de los antiguos Fariseos, ha convertido éste mismo nombre en sinónimo de "Hipocresia" ...

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    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de Fayostros
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    Mes clar que l'aigua, Jingoisme.

    UltraNazionalisme Imperialisme i Expansionista.

    Pa mi, mes que clar.

    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

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    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    "FeTixisme".
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Gracias por resolverme la duda, el catalanismo de ERC y CIU es jingoímo puro
    La verdad sobre los catalanistas.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXyMPz4i6lI

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    Centenar de la Ploma
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    yo le llamaria nacionalismo-ficcion,porque defienden unos paises inexistentes,como los vascos y su mitica euskalherria que aun hay gente que se cree que existe o que llego aexistir jajajaja

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