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El plural -es NO es catala.

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Tema: El plural -es NO es catala.

  1. #1
    Tinent de lo Regne
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    El plural -es NO es catala.

    Una diferencia mes que ya havia anyadit al meu document d'estudi Gallec/Portugues - Valencià/Catala.

    Suponc que ya haureu sentit alguna vegà el catala (per collons basicament) i es podeu donar conte que en catala no son:

    Les patates (en catala no es quereguilla, es patata) fregides.

    Sino:

    Las patatas fregidas (en la G catalana, igual que la francesa i laportuguesa).

    Pues be, vinc en imagens pa demostraro.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...TMonso1535.png



    Per tant, un atra diferencia entre catala i valencià que mai s'ha tingut en conte.

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    "celebradas" jeje. Bona trobaura valencia_es_llengua
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    Tinent de lo Regne Avatar de lobo_vcf
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    ponr la imagen mas pequeña porfavor
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44n8J8FXFhM
    ORGULLOSO DE HABER LOGRADO SER EL VIDEO DE LA SEMANA ^^



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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    La construcción del plural catalán es un claro ejemplo de acercamiento
    colonialista a otras lenguas vecinas, así como a ese afán obsesivamente
    enfermizo por diferenciarse del castellano, porque yo mismo conozco a
    muchos catalanes que, aunque escriban "les vaques", "les planes" o "les
    illes", siempre les he oído pronunciar "las vacas", "las planas" o "las illas",
    pero nunca tal como oficialmente las escriben ....

    Yo siempre dije que las lenguas hay que escribirlas y desarrollarlas
    siguiendo su espíritu lingüístico y cultural, no siguiendo criterios políticos
    e imperialistas ...

    Si yo fuera catalán y catalanohablante, lo primero que haría con dicha
    lengua, sería eliminar la normativa "cubana" pompeyofabriana por
    artificial, política y fascio-imperialista, y crear unas normas gráficas
    nuevas y coherentes con la forma de hablar, bebiendo de su espíritu
    lingüístico y de su vocabulario. Unas cosas serían más fáciles, otras más
    difíciles, pero al menos serían realmente catalanas que es lo que debería
    importarles a los lingüistas ...

    Ni más ni menos ...

    Y porfa "Valenciá es llengua": reduce la imagen ...

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    Cavaller Centenar
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    Gracies Valencia_es_llengua

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    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    Atre eixemple el podem vore en la ciutat de Figueres, que ans es dia "Figueras".
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de llunablava
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    si en veritat han perdut mes idioma ells que mosatros
    NO PASSARAN!

    El fascisme vol conquistar Valéncia,

    i Valéncia serà la tomba del fascisme!


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    Bua la image és massa gran

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Documentaros un poco antes de poner falsedades, el plural en catalán y en valenciano (que es lo mismo que el catalán) ha sido -es,


    Pere Tomic (siglo XV)

    http://www.lluisvives.com/servlet/Si...138_0002_s.jpg

    Ramón Muntaner (siglo XiV)


    http://www.lluisvives.com/servlet/Si...093_0004_s.jpg

    (Editat per Falsetat, en el S.XV el català era considerat un dialecte del occità, no tingué categoria de llengua hasta el sigle XX "1906", la Llengua Valenciana si que la té, desde el S. XII)

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    Cita Iniciado por barna
    Documentaros un poco antes de poner falsedades, el plural en catalán y en valenciano (que es lo mismo que el catalán) ha sido -es,

    http://www.lluisvives.com/servlet/Si...57/ima0003.htm

    Rossembach (siglo XV)

    Ramán MUntaner (siglo XiV)

    http://www.lluisvives.com/servlet/Si...68/ima0003.htm

    La imagen que has puesto es de una copia de Las Constituciones de Catalunya y es del siglo XVIII, en el cual algunos escritores en Catalunya escribían los plurales tal y como se pronunciaban o sea, con-es , al igual que algunos escritores de Valencia escribían por ejemplo la "j" como "ch" Pujades por Puchades, Pujol por Puchol.... y no veo que ahora ni siquiera es vuestras normas del Puig o del Puche .
    Antes de hablar documentense , por cierto, no existe ninguna lengua Aragonesa-oriental, los chapurreados nunca pueden ser considerados una lengua, saludos.
    Pues gracias por corroborarlo tonteras.
    "tal y como pronunciaban"
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    ah i gracies per la cita de Pere Tomic
    "reys d'arago e comtes de barcelona"

    hayyy mare l'imperialisme
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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Cita Iniciado por adlerta
    Cita Iniciado por barna
    Documentaros un poco antes de poner falsedades, el plural en catalán y en valenciano (que es lo mismo que el catalán) ha sido -es,

    http://www.lluisvives.com/servlet/Si...57/ima0003.htm

    Rossembach (siglo XV)

    Ramán MUntaner (siglo XiV)

    http://www.lluisvives.com/servlet/Si...68/ima0003.htm

    La imagen que has puesto es de una copia de Las Constituciones de Catalunya y es del siglo XVIII, en el cual algunos escritores en Catalunya escribían los plurales tal y como se pronunciaban o sea, con-es , al igual que algunos escritores de Valencia escribían por ejemplo la "j" como "ch" Pujades por Puchades, Pujol por Puchol.... y no veo que ahora ni siquiera es vuestras normas del Puig o del Puche .
    Antes de hablar documentense , por cierto, no existe ninguna lengua Aragonesa-oriental, los chapurreados nunca pueden ser considerados una lengua, saludos.
    Pues gracias por corroborarlo tonteras.
    "tal y como pronunciaban"
    CLARO QUE ESCRIBIR TAL Y COMO PRONUNCIABAN Y BEBER DE LAS FUENTES CLASICAS DE LA LENGUA VALENCIANA FUE UN DESASTRE PARA EL CATALÁN
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    ¿desde cuando se escribe como se pronuncia?, no acabo de entender tal barbaridad que sueltas, por cierto Pere Tomic (catalán ) escribe el plural con -es y Muntaner igual y Rossebach ...

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    y no leas a Tomic porque lo mismo te llevabas un disgusto cuando hable de las "conquista de Catalunya"

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    barna,
    no serina mejor que te dediaras a ayudar a tu pueblo a recuperar su lengua que a defender un infame dialecto creado por un quimico y una colla de mentirosos con complejo de grandeza, que hacen reinos de condados, principalmente, apoyados por pedofilos bien agradecidos e infames doctores de la historia de cuantomepagas y asi seras en la historia, que venir a qui a que te den con mas datos en los morros.......
    anda compañero de lucha...... defiende lo tuyo que nosotros no necesitamos que nos digas quienes somos ..... lo sabemos muy bien desde hace 800 años.
    pero si quieres te lo recuerdo....REINO DE VALENCIA......

    solo te pediría que me dijeses que tenemos los valencianos que tanto os queréis apropiar ?
    que os falta?
    por que queréis anexionaros unos territorios que nunca serán vuestros?
    que pretendes cambiando la historia de los reinos de aragon, valencia y mallorca?
    es que necesitáis algo...... que?
    por que cambiáis la historia de la literatura?
    por que cambiáis los limites de vuestra comunidad autónoma?
    un saludito. nen.......
    EN SANC, EN OR, EN BLAU
    \"In te, domine, speravi; non confundar\"
    \"En tu, Senyor, confiem, no mos confongues\"

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    si escribiesemos como pronunciamos, el catalán y el valenciano se parecerían como un huevo a una castaña.
    Y SI he leido a tomic.
    Sigo con la duda ¿eres un imperialista, o un malnacido?
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