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¿Se pot ser valencià sense ser catala?

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Tema: ¿Se pot ser valencià sense ser catala?

  1. #1
    Tinent de lo Regne
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    ¿Se pot ser valencià sense ser catala?

    Be, entre en la web de "valencianisme" .com per a vore com va l'assunte...

    Resulta, que segons el BLOC, insultar a un articul que diu que els valencians som catalans es "antivalencià".

    Desde la seua pagina web rebuja a Valencia Hui per queixarse d'este articul:

    El diai anticatalanista "Valencia hui" rescatava a la seua portada una entrevista realitzada a Vicent Sanxis, valencià i director del diari Avui amb un títular impactant : "No se puede ser valenciano sin ser catalán peró si catalán sin ser valenciano". Un títol producte d'un refregit d'una de les suposades respostes del periodista valencià .

    La pol·lèmica al voltant de les paraules recollides per esta entrevista s'ha obert en nombrosos blogs i fòrums d'internet.

    El professor de sociologia de la Universitat de València, Rafa Castelló, expert en l'anàlisi de les actituds identitàries dels valencians, parla de l'entrevista al seu bloc.
    I els comentaris.. Son evidents..

    Basset | Author | 2008-11-18 00:35:10

    Els valencians i valencianes som més catalans que la sardana!
    Els valencians som de nació catalana amb matissos aragonesos, però catalans de llengua i cultura.

    El nostre marc polític de pertinença, la nostra adscripció pàtria i el nostre lloc al món és el PAÍS VALENCIÀ LLIURE I SOBIRÀ.

    A partir d'ací ja escriurem la nostra història en clau estrictament propia, o en clau de PAÏSOS CATALANS plurals, federals i de sobirania copartida. El temps ho dirà.
    Pero al mateix temps... Un comentari valencianiste que m'ha sorprengut:

    mary | 81.42.2.xxx | 2008-02-27 22:14:58

    SOM VALENÇIANS,I SEMPRE SEREM VALENÇIANS,PESE A QUI PESE,ES AIXINA I SEMPRE HO SERÀ.SI CREC QUE TENIM GERMANOR EN CATALUNYA I MALLORCA,PER SUPOST,PERO MAI EN AL VIDA,SEREM CATALANS,EL NOSTRE REGNE ES EL REIGNE DE VALENÇIA D'UN PAIS QUE ES EL PAIS VALENÇIÀ(EN CARA QUE DIC QUE HI HAN MOLS TRAIDORS QUE SE SENTEN CASTELLNAS I PARLEN LA LLENGUA CASTELLANA,IXOS NO MEREIXEN,NI TAN SOLS VIURE ASÌ)PERO LA GENT QUE AMA DE VERITAT LA TERRA I LA LLENGUA SABEN MOLT BÈ QUE SOM I SEREM VALENÇIANS.VIXCA LA TERRA VALENCIANA!!!
    No esque siga molt valencianista.. ¿Germanor en Catalunya i Mallorca? El mateix que en Arago o en Provença.. Pero el rest del comentari be...

    I la entrevista:
    El director del periódico AVUI, Vicent Sanchis, declara: "Era necesario hacer justicia con el AVUI"
    Este artículo es diferente, porque no está en ninguna Web ni tampoco se ha publicado. De hecho, es una entrevista –de forma sintetizada- que realicé a Vicent Sanchis, director del periódico AVUI.


    - Desde hace 11 años ejerce de director del periódico AVUI. ¿Cuál es su secreto?

    Mi secreto es pensar que ésto no era una historia corta, ni provisional. De hecho, era necesario hacer justicia con el AVUI; conseguir que una parte importante de la sociedad confíe en el diario, además de tener una empresa que avale este proyecto.

    Aunque dirigir un periódico tiene un límite, no deseo ser como un amigo mío llamado "Antonio Franco"; mi objetivo no es cumplir 20 años como director del diario AVUI. Opino que no es productivo para un periódico que un director se eternice y dirija más de 12 años.
    Anteriormente, lo que pasó con el periódico AVUI fue muy malo, ya que los cambios de director en 1 o 2 años eran contraprudentes.

    - Hace unos meses se ha nombrado al Consejero de Cultura y Comunicación, Joan Manuel Tresserras, que es profesor de la Universidad Autónoma de Barcelona, donde usted estudió. ¿Qué espera de Joan Manuel Tresserras como consejero?

    Que no sea sectario. En cambio deseo que sea paciente, generoso y a la vez resolutivo. Tresserras debe tomar decisiones arriesgadas; tengo cierta confianza en él, además de una esperanza en su paso por el departamento de comunicación. Pienso que es un departamento muy castigado y si he de decir mi opinión, nacionalmente, tengo mucha más complicidad con Tresserras que con Ferran Mascarell, el anterior consejero.

    - ¿Qué se siente valenciano o catalán?

    Soy un valenciano pero catalanista. Nací en Valencia, por tanto soy del País Valenciano y formo parte de una nación catalana.

    - ¿Se puede ser valenciano sin ser catalán?

    No. En cambio, sí puedes ser catalán sin ser valenciano. Uno de los problemas que tienen los valencianos, es que no pueden aspirar a tener una plenitud nacional y cultural sin el Principado y las Islas Baleares. Por otro lado, hay muchos catalanes que prescinden del resto de los Países Catalanes.

    - ¿Cuáles son los consejos para ser un buen periodista?

    Un periodista debe tener dos premisas importantes, valor añadido y psicología. O sea si sabe ruso mejor, si sabe mucho de política mejor todavía. Debe ser participativo y saber trabajar en equipo.

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    Sargent Centenar Avatar de MiTierra
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    Bo, burraes sense trellat se senten moltes. Es molt facil parlar per parlar , pero lo del titul del post, yo el canviaria per " es imposible ser catala, seguent valencia" . Despres, lo que diguen 4 catalaneros destarifats, per lo forro de los collons .
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


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    Tinent de lo Regne
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    Yo me base en el nucleu de l'articul i la idea dels panques estos...

    Ademes, el titul, quidra l'atencio.. I es interesant lo que pensen estos "valencianistes".

    BLOC

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    "No. En cambio, sí puedes ser catalán sin ser valenciano. "


    Hay que joderse....osea que si a estos le preguntas que fue primero el huevo o la gallina ellos dicen..."pujol,fue pujol!!"..........
    La mejor cultura esta en tus raices.

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    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de ratblau
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    home, puix si estos analfabets saberen que els ibers, habitats antics, i base del Regne de Valencia, encara que s'estenien fins a l'Ebre pel nort, i fins al Segura pel Sur. Foren junt al gregs, romans, i cartaginesos els mes famosos i rics europeus del V a.de C.
    I que la peninsula, i Espanya, foren nomenades Iberia en el seu honor. ¿A on estava la eurorregió?
    Segur que los entrava una rabieta el saber que els Ibers ya eren valencians, i no catalans
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


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    ¿Se puede ser chino sin ser japonés?


    Estos pancas, desde que legalizaron la maria en las farmacias de Cataluña, cada día estan peor.


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    mare meua... aso no se aon arribará... en gent com esta...

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    Tinent de lo Regne Avatar de lobo_vcf
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    no esta mal ajajaj xD
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44n8J8FXFhM
    ORGULLOSO DE HABER LOGRADO SER EL VIDEO DE LA SEMANA ^^



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    JAJAJA esta gent té un gran problema de personalitat. Se senten acomplexats de ser valencians i necessiten subordinar-se a la identitat catalana. DEPRIMENT

    CATALANISTE "VALENCIÀ" = CATALÀ DEL SUR
    Nostra Real Senyera no s'agenolla davant ningu...

    ¡Gloria a la Patria, Vixca Valencia!

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    Despres, lo que diguen 4 catalaneros destarifats, per lo forro de los collons .

    S'activa la maquinaria belica del Regne en la protocolaria colocacio de la Real Senyera en les Torres de Serrans; accio que significava la declaracio de guerra "a sanc i foc"

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    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    La pregunta sería; ¿se puede ser pankal,sin ser inutil?
    Yo creo que es imposible...

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    xddd

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    La pregunta sería; ¿se puede ser pankal,sin ser inutil?
    Yo creo que es imposible...
    Si que se puede, pero siendo tarugo .
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


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