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Rub alcaba(Ministro de Interior) ratifica la nación catalana

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Tema: Rub alcaba(Ministro de Interior) ratifica la nación catalana

  1. #1
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    Rub alcaba(Ministro de Interior) ratifica la nación catalana

    http://politica.e-noticies.es/rubalc...cho-32249.html


    Rubalcaba afirma que la nación catalana "es un hecho"

    "Lo que España no puede hacer es negar la decisión del Parlamento elegido por los catalanes"



    ¿Le pondrá los límites o dejará que la"nación supuesta" invada a sus vecinos?

    ¿Dimitirá un Ministro de España que negaba la ruptura de la nación española por el estatuto catalán?

    ¿Defenderá el Ministro de Interior de España a los valencianos de las ansias imperialistas de la supuesta "nación catalana"??

    ¿Cuantas naciones tiene la nación española?

    ¿No negará la Nación Valenciana? Si no la niega, ¿como es compatible la Nación Valenciana con la nación catalana? Si la niega ¿Que derecho tiene el señor Rubalcaba a negarnos nada a los valencianos?

    ¡¡¡ Reclamo la dimisión del Ministro Rubalcaba!!!

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    Si no m'enganye, crec que mos llevaren o mos volien llevar el titul de nacionalitat, als valencians.

    Eixos comtats.. Una nació?
    Si no te res que no siga propi...

    Bandera? La de aragó.
    Idioma? Una barreja de dialectes que agarraren coses del aragonés, del valencià i del francés (segons quin dialecte)
    Sardana? Inventada per un andalús.
    Himne? Una canço inventada per a matar a qui siga per "Catalunya".
    Regne? Una serie de comtats mal fets..
    Historia? De com despres de independisarse de frança no podien seguir independents i acabaren en Arago..

    Mare meua.

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    El video es interesante.

    Losantos hablando del estatut.

    http://www.elconfidencial.com/carta-...-20090902.html

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    Joé, con estas palabras se demuestra la casta política con la que estamos atrapados. Una vergüenza nacional que un ministro de una nación, declare como nación una región de la suya.
    Son auténtica basura esta gentuza.
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


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    Desde el punt de vista cultural és cert que Espanya està constituida per diverses nacions, cosa que des del centralisme de Madrit no es reconeix, pero si accepten que una ho és, les demés nacions que conformen Espanya tenen dret a tindre eixe títol. Espere no crear polèmica en este paraules, perque una cosa és la nació política i una atra la nació cultural.

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    Desde el punt de vista cultural és cert que Espanya està constituida per diverses nacions, cosa que des del centralisme de Madrit no es reconeix, pero si accepten que una ho és, les demés nacions que conformen Espanya tenen dret a tindre eixe títol. Espere no crear polèmica en este paraules, perque una cosa és la nació política i una atra la nació cultural.
    No estic d´acord, perque des de el punt de vista cultural tambe, eixes "nacions" es varen unir constituint una politicament, en les seues REGIONS culturals. El seu nom es Espanya.
    Es l´excusa dels nacionalistes per traure profit de les seues ideologies i convertir-la en Ex-panya.
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


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    Re: Rub alcaba(Ministro de Interior) ratifica la nación cata

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    ¿No negará la Nación Valenciana? Si no la niega, ¿como es compatible la Nación Valenciana con la nación catalana? Si la niega ¿Que derecho tiene el señor Rubalcaba a negarnos nada a los valencianos?

    ¡¡¡ Reclamo la dimisión del Ministro Rubalcaba!!!
    Ixcá poguerem ferli obertament eixa pregunta en llum i taquigrafos.
    Necesitem un home o dona de Coalició en el Congres.
    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

    FRONT A L'IMPERIALISME CATALÁ

    JOVENS LLIURES VALENCIANS

    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

    UNIXTE A MOSATROS

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    Desde el punt de vista cultural és cert que Espanya està constituida per diverses nacions, cosa que des del centralisme de Madrit no es reconeix, pero si accepten que una ho és, les demés nacions que conformen Espanya tenen dret a tindre eixe títol. Espere no crear polèmica en este paraules, perque una cosa és la nació política i una atra la nació cultural.
    Estic d´acord, pero des de el punt de vista cultural tambe, eixes "nacions" es varen unir constituint una politicament, en les seues REGIONS culturals. El seu nom es Espanya.
    Es l´excusa dels nacionalistes per traure profit de les seues ideologies i convertir-la en Ex-panya.
    Nació no es sinònim de Estat. Son coses totalment diferents.
    Per molt que una série de nacions s'unixquen en un sol estat, no vol dir que les cultures, les costums i les formes de ser se unifiquen.

    I la Constitució Espanyola reconeix les nacionalitats, per això se crearen les autonomies, se crearen les que se consideraven ancions, primer el País Vasc, despres Catalunya, seguit de Canaries i despres Valéncia.

    Hui en dia ya son tot comunitats autonomes i ya no se distinguixen nacions.

    http://www.uiquipedia.org/Nació

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    Jajaja.........el Rubal Calva, esta com la chata!!!

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    Desde el punt de vista cultural és cert que Espanya està constituida per diverses nacions, cosa que des del centralisme de Madrit no es reconeix, pero si accepten que una ho és, les demés nacions que conformen Espanya tenen dret a tindre eixe títol. Espere no crear polèmica en este paraules, perque una cosa és la nació política i una atra la nació cultural.
    Estic d´acord, pero des de el punt de vista cultural tambe, eixes "nacions" es varen unir constituint una politicament, en les seues REGIONS culturals. El seu nom es Espanya.
    Es l´excusa dels nacionalistes per traure profit de les seues ideologies i convertir-la en Ex-panya.
    Nació no es sinònim de Estat. Son coses totalment diferents.
    Per molt que una série de nacions s'unixquen en un sol estat, no vol dir que les cultures, les costums i les formes de ser se unifiquen.(No es necessaria l únio, simplement compartir)

    I la Constitució Espanyola reconeix les antigues nacionalitats (que no es lo mateix), per això se crearen les autonomies, se crearen les que se consideraven ancions, primer el País Vasc, despres Catalunya, seguit de Canaries i despres Valéncia.

    Hui en dia ya son tot comunitats autonomes i ya no se distinguixen nacions.

    http://www.uiquipedia.org/Nació
    Cadascu ho veu com vol vore-lo. Ho sent, pero continue sense estar d´acord. Que no et sapiga a mal.

    Ah!, i lo que diga la uiquimerdia, no se ho creu ni deu.
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


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    No es qüestió d elo que diga o no la uiquipedia. Una nació es una nació i un estat es un estat, son conceptes diferents.

    Sabem perfectament que Valéncia no es lo mateix que Asturies, Andalusia o Catalunya per ningun modo. Per tant, pensem que Valéncia es un atra nació diferent a Asturies Andalusia o Catalunya, siguen les nacions que siguen estes anteriors.

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    I tranquil, no m'ho prenc a mal, cada u es lliure de pensar com vullga.

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    No es qüestió d elo que diga o no la uiquipedia. Una nació es una nació i un estat es un estat, son conceptes diferents.

    Sabem perfectament que Valéncia no es lo mateix que Asturies, Andalusia o Catalunya per ningun modo. Per tant, pensem que Valéncia es un atra nació diferent a Asturies Andalusia o Catalunya, siguen les nacions que siguen estes anteriors.
    Que tu ho entengues aixina no vol dir que siga aixina. Te dic lo mateix que sempre he dit. Tu hauras trobat eixa informacio d´alguna font en concret, i yo d´un atra. Yo personalment, hui per hui, no crec lo que diu la uiquimerdia, la RAE....... etc, per posar-te eixemples. Perque clarament es veuen que estan politissades. Preferix les definicions que em dona l´enciclopedia Larousse, puix les considere mes reals. Pero clar, cadascu que es crega lo que vullga d´on siga.

    Tot lo mon sap perfectament que Valencia no es lo mateix que Asturies, Andalusia o Catalunya, pero per eixa simple rao, no es poden nomenar "nacions", perque abans de ficar calificatius politissats, sempre han segut, i seran regions.
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


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    I tranquil, no m'ho prenc a mal, cada u es lliure de pensar com vullga.
    Veus, ahi te done la rao.
    ¿PP Valencianiste?.......... Puix va a ser que no.


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    Pero...de que estamos hablando?...de retrasarnos hasta la edad media?...porque entonces si nos ponemos asi,ciudades independientes o reinos importantes habian unos cuantos...menos Barcelona,que como todos sabemos,era unos condaditos de na...y justamente los que menos deberian de pedir van y piden ser nacion...tocate los anisitos...

    Avanzemos un poco no Rubalcalva?...que estamos en el siglo 21 y estos catalanistas dicen no se que de nacion y hostias, como si estuvieramos en la edad media.
    La mejor cultura esta en tus raices.

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