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prova: el valencià es parlava antes de Jaume I (FURS)

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Tema: prova: el valencià es parlava antes de Jaume I (FURS)

  1. #1
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    prova: el valencià es parlava antes de Jaume I (FURS)

    Ahir vaig anar a l'exposició dels Furs de Valéncia que es fa a l'Almoina (està hasta el 3 de desembre), i va ser la meua novia qui va donar-se conte d'algo...

    la pregunta és: dona temps en 20 anys de que la llengua del poble passe a ser la dels 20% dels pobladors que la conquisten??? la de tot el poble?

    sí, la llengua dels "catalans" com diuen les versions oficials que infecten als nostres chiquets a l'escola?

    feu click ací i digueume per favor si podeu vore el texte.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo_search...4&id=801264497

  2. #2
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    penseu: Jaume I entra en Valencia en 1238, als dos mesos s'escriuen els Furs... i vint anys desprès (sí, no eix tota la info, pero baix posa 1261) ya estàn traduïts al valencià...

    pues això: es una prova que desmonta tota la teoría catalanista que ensenyen a l'escola.

    Germans, poseu les vostres idees al respecte. Teniu que fer saber a tots d'este descobriment.

    Tinc més proves contra el catanalisme a la meua pàgina de facebook "La senyera valenciana va en blau".

    salutacions a tots!

  3. #3
    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de 1245
    Fecha de ingreso
    04 oct, 08
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    penseu: Jaume I entra en Valencia en 1238, als dos mesos s'escriuen els Furs... i vint anys desprès (sí, no eix tota la info, pero baix posa 1261) ya estàn traduïts al valencià...

    pues això: es una prova que desmonta tota la teoría catalanista que ensenyen a l'escola.

    Germans, poseu les vostres idees al respecte. Teniu que fer saber a tots d'este descobriment.

    Tinc més proves contra el catanalisme a la meua pàgina de facebook "La senyera valenciana va en blau".

    salutacions a tots!
    Estic prou d'acort en aixo, ya que l'historiador Vicent Giner Boira va escriure: http://al-balanci.com/boira03.htm

    Los fueros se escribieron en latín; pero en 1261, para que todos los habitantes del Reino los entendiesen y pudiesen cumplirlos, Don Jaime ordena que se traduzcan a la lengua que el pueblo habla. ¿Y cuál era esa lengua? Es «el romane». No hay otra. Y a él se traducen todos los fueros.


    Una vez que se había terminado la traducción completa del texto, se le llevó al propio Don Jaime para que los revisara, los aprobara, los firmara y, al fin, los jurase; lo que hizo el 7 de abril de 1261, poniendo una mano sobre el texto latino y la otra sobre la versión en romanç.


    Añadiendose siempre como coletilla final, que el propio Rey había hecho la traducción al romanç, diciéndose: «Arromançat per lo Senyor Rey.» O bien: «Romançat per lo Senyor Rey.» Siempre la expresión «arromançat» o «romançat»; es decir, arromanzado, traducido al romanç.
    Pero si a esto sumamos que Vicente Ramos Perez, licenciado en Filosofía y Letras por la Universidad Complutense. Doctor en Filosofía por la Universidad de Valencia. Director de la Biblioteca “Gabriel Miró” de Alicante (1949-1983), Director de la “Casa-Museo Azorín” de Monóvar (1971-1982). Profesor Extraordinario de Lengua y Literatura Española en la Universidad de Estocolmo (1957-1962) dijo que los orígenes de nuestras lengua datan del siglo XI, como en este artículo de prensa se puede ver: http://hemeroteca.abc.es/nav/Navigat...12/21/038.html

    Junto con este artículo:



    Y añado el estudio de la "repoblación" de Valencia que realizó Mº Desamparados Cabanes Pecourt Licenciada en Filosofía y Letras y Doctora en Historia por la Universidad de Valencia en 1968 que tras veinte años de profesora en la Universidad de Valencia (1963-1982) obtuvo la cátedra de Paleografía y Diplomática de la Universidad de Murcia en 1982. Ha sido directora del departamento de Paleografía y Diplomática entre 1983 y 1986 y directora del Departamento de Historia Medieval, Ciencias y Técnicas Historiográficas de la Universidad de Zaragoza entre 1988 y 1992.

    http://www.teresafreedom.com/modules...op=viewarticle

    Más lo que tu has expuesto, queda claro que la teoría catalanista tan solo es una mentira más de las muchas que cuentan los pancas para crearse sus países fascistas imaginarios.

    S'activa la maquinaria belica del Regne en la protocolaria colocacio de la Real Senyera en les Torres de Serrans; accio que significava la declaracio de guerra "a sanc i foc"

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    Re: prova: el valencià es parlava antes de Jaume I (FURS)

    Cita Iniciado por Blaverick
    feu click ací i digueume per favor si podeu vore el texte.

    http://www.facebook.com/photo_search...4&id=801264497
    Si que se llig

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    si pero esta en catlencia tot ell.
    "Voler conservar el llenguage ab les mateixes formes que tenien les paraules en los sigles XIV i XV es considerar com a morta esta llengua; lo qual es un error deplorable" Lluis Fullana Mira

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    si pero esta en catlencia tot ell.
    normal es una exposicio de la generalitat que vols? xd
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44n8J8FXFhM
    ORGULLOSO DE HABER LOGRADO SER EL VIDEO DE LA SEMANA ^^



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    1245, eixa noticia que has posat de l'any 1996 es brutal. gracies per compartirla!!!

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    Yo ya l'he publicada en el blog i el facebook.

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    si espereu una semana, vos sorprendre en una cosa mes forta encara, tinc el privilegi fet en Calatayut el 4 de juny de 1264.
    Es el privilegi pel qual el nostre rei En Jaume mos concedix els nostres furs en Romanç, i no en llati, com estaven els d'Arago, i els usatges de Barcelona.
    Soles vos envie un chicotet abanç:

    "Statuimus imperpetuum quod aliquis iurista, advocatus vel alius iurisperius non advocent in curia civitatis Valentie nec in aliqua curia totius regni, nec in alquibus appellationibus deinde aliquo tempore..."
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


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    si espereu una semana, vos sorprendre en una cosa mes forta encara, tinc el privilegi fet en Calatayut el 4 de juny de 1264.
    Es el privilegi pel qual el nostre rei En Jaume mos concedix els nostres furs en Romanç, i no en llati, com estaven els d'Arago, i els usatges de Barcelona.
    Soles vos envie un chicotet abanç:

    "Statuimus imperpetuum quod aliquis iurista, advocatus vel alius iurisperius non advocent in curia civitatis Valentie nec in aliqua curia totius regni, nec in alquibus appellationibus deinde aliquo tempore..."
    Cabró, ara mos dones la frase en valencià pa que pugam entendre-ho

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    jejeje
    Determinamos a perpetuidad que un jurista, abogado o jurisperto, no tengan voz en la curia de la ciudad de Valencia, ni en ninguna curia de todo el reino, ni en algunas apelaciones después de cierto tiempo

    Teu fique en castellà aixna heu enten mes gent jejeje
    pero creu-me no heu vas a entendre igual jejeje
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


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    1245, eixa noticia que has posat de l'any 1996 es brutal. gracies per compartirla!!!
    Gracies Blaverick, aci hi han mes articuls de tots els aspectes: http://documentsvalencians.blogspot....emeroteca.html

    S'activa la maquinaria belica del Regne en la protocolaria colocacio de la Real Senyera en les Torres de Serrans; accio que significava la declaracio de guerra "a sanc i foc"

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    si espereu una semana, vos sorprendre en una cosa mes forta encara, tinc el privilegi fet en Calatayut el 4 de juny de 1264.
    Es el privilegi pel qual el nostre rei En Jaume mos concedix els nostres furs en Romanç, i no en llati, com estaven els d'Arago, i els usatges de Barcelona.
    Soles vos envie un chicotet abanç:

    "Statuimus imperpetuum quod aliquis iurista, advocatus vel alius iurisperius non advocent in curia civitatis Valentie nec in aliqua curia totius regni, nec in alquibus appellationibus deinde aliquo tempore..."

    S'activa la maquinaria belica del Regne en la protocolaria colocacio de la Real Senyera en les Torres de Serrans; accio que significava la declaracio de guerra "a sanc i foc"

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    una semana, massa temps. mos quedarem sense ungles
    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

    FRONT A L'IMPERIALISME CATALÁ

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    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

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