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  1. #1
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de ratblau
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    Moltes gracies Nelo Nazaret

    l'atre dia en un fil tinguerem una mija conversacio en la que te vaig dir que tu i yo teniem que parlar.
    Aci tens el resultat,per a tu i per a tots.
    Espere que siga del vostre agrado, i sobre tot, torne a donar-te les gracies Nelo Nazaret.

    Salvem la Memoria Historica.

    Molt s'ha parlat i molt de soroll ha despertat esta llei que no acabe de comprendre del tot, per cert, ya no per considerar-me mes republicà que franquiste, si no simplement per que no veig aci cap solucio.

    Anem a vore, puc estar d'acort en que lleven les estatues del dictador de les places, ¿pero tambe de Capitania? ¿Han segut consultats els militars?.
    Puc compendre que no se permeta la bandera espanyola en l'aguila de Sant Joan, pero... ¿que passa en la republicana? Per que les dospodrien ser anticonstitucionas igualment.

    ¿I en la anticonstitucional dels Països Catalans? ¿que passa en ella, o no es tant anticonstitucional com la del'aguila de Sant Joan?
    No se fins a quin punt arribaria la paritat, pero crec que aço se'n ha anat un poc de les mans.

    Si mal no recorde, en les files republicanes n'hi hagueren tantes victimes com en les franquistes. I sobre tot en gent que no tenia res que vore, apareixen gents mortes pels dos bandos.

    Pero crec que no soc yo el millor indicat per a parlar sobre eixe tema, per que en part, no l'acabe d'entendre be, i no voldria que me malinterpretaren per fer algun comentari innecessari fora de to.
    Aixina que anem a lo que realment volia contar.

    Durant el franquisme, el catalanisme va circular per les nostres terres sense cap problema, mentres en Republica, era el valencianisme el mes clar eixemple de vida dins del nostre Regne. I aixo que molts han intentat dir lo contrari. Pero ¿quin podria ser el vincul que unira tant a Catalunya en el Franquisme?. Simplement repassant l'historia podrem trobar joyes com les que anem a contar.

    El moviment fasciste espanyol naix en Catalunya, mes concret en Barcelona, en mans de Ramón Sales Amenós , un carliste d'accio, lleidata, naixgut en La Furiola, que va crear en 1919 el Sindicato Libre. Des de a on promouria la coneguda Lliga Patriotica Espanyola (LPE), per a fer front a la Federacio Democratica Nacional (FDN) creà per Francesc Macià (Fundador d'Estat Catala), front que va tindre multituts d'enfrontaments en les Rambles i en tota Barcelona. Un diari nomenat El Imparcial contava en una noticia aço " Para dar un ¡Viva a España! Hay que empuñar la browning, o hallarse dispuesto a ir a la casa de socorro". I aixina va ser com la (LPE) va començar el seu cami seent la força fascista per excelencia d'Espanya, segons conta Manuel Pastor (Los orígenes del fascismo en España, 1975). O la força prefascista segons Colin M Winston ( La clase trabajadora y la derecha en España(1900-1936)) fins l'arribada de Primo de Ribera. Encara que s'haja silenciat prenent mes importancia el tardà fascisme espanyol de Madrit i Valladolit que han generat una abundant lliteratura i han distorsionat la seua historia en Espanya. Ramón seria fusilat pel bando republicà el quatre de novembre del 36 en Barcelona. noticia.

    Hem de tindre en conte que el "vanguardisme" ideologic català, ha estat present dins de l'ultradreta espanyola durant tot el sigle XX, Barcelona ha segut i es el centre innovador i exportador ideologic, com a mostra podem destacar l'actual Moviment Social Revolucionari (MSR). O el moviment antiislamic Plataforma per Catalunya (PxC).
    Atre vincul a tindre en conte, podria estar en la persona de Ramón Franco Bahamonte germà del Generalisim. Este desconegut personage, va ser un excelent aviador,capaç de creuar l'atlantic en l'hidroavio Dornier Wal Plus Ultra efectuant la travessia des de Palos de la Frontera (Huelva) a Buenos Aires (Argentina) el 22 de Giner de 1926. Ademes, va ser un gran miliar, pero en 1930 se va sublevar contra el Rei i va sobrevolar el Palau Real de Madrit estiguent apunt de bombardejar-lo ( la presencia de chiquets va fer que renunciara en l'ultim moment a fer eixa accio). Despres en la Segona Republica, va tornar a Espanya i va arreplegar la direccio de l'Aeronautica Militar.

    Pero mes tart va ser destituït, passant a la politica. El 28 de Juny de 1931, va ser nomenat diputat per Esquerra Republicana de Catalunya en les eleccions Generals.

    Al estallar la guerra, se va passar al bando del seu germa, pero un accident (que molts pensen fora provocat), va acabar en la seua vida quant anava cap a Barcelona en un avio dispost a bombardejar-la.
    Molt s'ha parlat d'aço, pero la veritat, es que l'immensa majoria opina que Ramon, mai pogue mamprendre eixe vol, per que ell defenia la Republica (va ser un dels que lluitaren en l'exterior per conseguir la Segona), i tenia molts bons amics en Barcelona (de tots els bandos) . Qui sap quants favors cobrarien en el seu nom de mans de Paco.
    Continua...
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


  2. #2
    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de 1245
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    S'activa la maquinaria belica del Regne en la protocolaria colocacio de la Real Senyera en les Torres de Serrans; accio que significava la declaracio de guerra "a sanc i foc"

  3. #3
    Varó de lo Regne
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    lo que se depren en tu ratblau. Gracies
    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

    FRONT A L'IMPERIALISME CATALÁ

    JOVENS LLIURES VALENCIANS

    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

    UNIXTE A MOSATROS

  4. #4
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de mensajero
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    ratblau tens uns coneixements molt grans!! gracies per la teua llavor amic!!
    Informame de que webs hacen apologia del terrorismo y lo pondre en conocimiento del Grupo de Delitos Informaticos.

  5. #5
    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de nelo_nazaret
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    Moltes gracies a tu Ratblau per dedicarme el títol d´este fil i en este gran foro...
    La veritat esque la meua familia per part de ma mare i mon pare van ser cambatents del bandol republicá i yo sempre e vist a Franco no sols com el fascista que tot lo mon sap, sino també un CATALANISTA cosa que la majoria de la gent no seu creu o no vol creure.
    Gracies atra vegá a tu Ratblau per esta fantastica informació.

  6. #6
    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de Fayostros
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    ratblau, Volem una conferencia teua en el Grup ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ YAAAAA !!!!!!


    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

  7. #7
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de RV-VCF
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    Ratblau ma que eres gran

  8. #8
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de ratblau
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    gracies, pero torne a dir que el merit es tot de Nelo. Ell esel verdader protagoniste
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


  9. #9
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de ratblau
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    tinc una bona noticia que donar-vos, o per lo manco un eixemplemesdeles manipulacions que fan els catalanistes.
    Anem a vore.
    En l'articul sobre la memoria historica,o siga en el encapçala este fil, he ficat una senya que he copiat de la mateixa pagina de la Generalitat Catalana.En la que ficava "la España franquista experimentó,a partir de la coyuntura de 1959 y pese a las condiciones políticas adversas, un periodo de expansión económica, que fue determinado por la inserción tardía, aunque rápida, de España en general y de Cataluña en un desarrollo europeo más amplio, correspondiente a lo que se ha llamado los 'treinta años gloriosos' (1945-1975)." i esta era la direccio http://www.gencat.cat/catalunya/cas/.../historia8.htm. puix com podeu comprovar, han borrat eixa pagina. L'han suprimit com tot lo que molesta. Pero si fiquem cache: davant de la direccio en google, mos trobarem en una sorpresa en mayuscules.
    Per si lleven el cache de google he fet una captura


    Puncha l'image per a vore-la en gran.
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


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