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Les barres d'Arago II

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  1. #1
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de ratblau
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    Les barres d'Arago II

    Com de costum aci teniu un nou articul de Aledua. Espere com sempre que vos agrade. No vos pergau el final segur que vos agrada.

    Les barres d'Arago II

    Ya fa un temps vaig dedicar un articul sancer a les barres d'Arago, es mes, fa un poc manco vaig fer atra mencio sobre elles en l'estelada i Cuba, a on vaig mantindre una disputa en Quico Ventalló.

    Puix be, ara un temps despres, i degut a que no me cabia en un mensage tot lo que tenia i lo que podia demostrar, me decidixc a escriure este articul, que de fet, ya avise que no va a ser del gust de tots. Es de veres que existixen teories per a tots els gusts,i tambe heu es que moltes d'elles sonen mes a conte que a llegenda encara, pero no es just desestimar cap teoria pel simple fet de no voler acceptar-la. Aixo podria ser un poc mes que una simple manipulacio. Aixina que anem a vore alguns casos.

    Existix una llegenda que parla que les barres roges sobre fondo groc representen les polaines ensanguinades de la Creu de Jesucrist, i es per aixo que va ser un simbol cristia conservat en el Vatica. Pero per a contrarestar aço existix un llegenda que diu que el Rei Pere El Catolic en 1204 va anar a Roma a que el Papa Inocenci III el coronara Rei. L'escrit diu aixina “fue a Roma para ser coronado rey y assi lo fue por manos de Inocencio III (...) le concedió que él y los sucesores d'el llevasen delante del papa la vandera de la Iglesia con las armas de Aragón que son de colores amarilla y colorada" Marineo Sículo, Lucio: De Aragoniae Regibus et eorum rebus gestis libri V .Zaragoza 1509.. T.3, Fol.XXV II pero ad este text li seguix aço en la mateixa fulla “... a este mismo tiempo(...) el rey don Pedro salió de Roma con su exército puesto en orden y vino contra don Simón: al qual venció”. No cal ser molt bo en historia per a saber, que Simo de Monfort era ortodox i defensor d'Inocenci III i que ademes va guanayar al Rei Pere II( i resultant ademes mort este ultim). Aixo si no recorde mal va ocorrer en la Batalla de Muret ( 12 de setembre de 1213) Imediatament despres de la seua ¿coronacio?. No pareix una font molt fiable, la veritat.Ademes, mira lo que diu sobre Ramon Berenguer i els seus signes ... “Dio assi mesmo luego el Conde Don Ramón sus insignias a los grandes pueblos de Aragón que se las demandaron; y también las Armas de San Jorge que eran del Principado de Barcelona (sic) dioles assi mesmo las cuatro cabezas de moros y en medio una cruz colorada en cuya virtud avia vencido a los moros y muertos sus reyes. Cuando se caso con doña Petronila tomó por fuerza d'armas a Tortosa, Fraga, Miqueça y Miravete, muertos los reyes dellos; cuyas cabezas juntamente con la señal de la cruz figuran en el escudo “.No se,pero esta historia yo no l'he estudiat aixina. ♣ Es curios, pero este Lucio (que no te res que vore en el cuiner), va ser capellà i croniste de Ferran el Catolic, i mestre dels fills dels nobles de la cort. ♣Heu deixe com a senya,mes tart podrem fer memoria sobre este fet).
    Pero en dietari del capellà del Rei Alfons el Magnanim se relata este fet “fos coronat e consgrat per papa Ignocent I terç, en la ciutat de Roma , en l´any MCCIIII , e lo dit papa lo feu ganfanoner , per a ell e tots los reys de Aragó qui apres vindran” dec reconeixer que este mateix testimoni apareix publicat tambe en la Historia Poncificali Católica (Barcelona 1606)

    Pero aixo no es tot, existix tambe com tots sabreu una llegenda sobre l'origen de les barres, llegenda que ha segut ya inclus desestimada pel pancatalanisme, per que esta se cau pel seu propi pes. Si efectivament i com tots sabeu m'estic referint a les barres de Wilfred. I este ha segut el mit mes repetitiu de tota l'historia de Catalunya.

    Continua...
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


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    Eres un mestre Rat.

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    Impressionant Ratblau


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    Un articul impressionant Ratblau enhorabona per haver-los tancat la boca i haver-los demostrat que no mes que fan que inventar i tapar la pura realitat
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