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Tema: 865 en català i 22 en valencià.

  1. #1
    Moderador Avatar de nrf_blau
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    865 en català i 22 en valencià.

    http://www.levante-emv.com/comunitat...no/754877.html

    INICIOACTUALIDADDEPORTESOPINIÓNECONOMÍAGENTE Y OCIOSEMANALESPARTICIPACIÓNSERVICIOSC. Valenciana Valencia Comarcas Castelló Panorama Sucesos Internacional España Sociedad Cultura Tecnología Documentos Levante-EMV.com » Comunitat Valenciana Iglesia
    El Papa usa 865 palabras en catalán y dijo 22 en valenciano
    Declaraciones incendiarias al margen, la visita de Benedicto XVI a España ha destacado por el amplio uso del catalán que ayer hizo en Barcelona. El Papa Ratzinger pronunció 865 palabras en catalán, mientras que sólo dijo 22 en valenciano durante su visita a Valencia en 2006. La razón, según los expertos, hay que buscarla en «la voluntad de los arzobispados».


    ¿Que penseu?

    El Levante-EMV diferenciant entre català i valencià, per fi s'han donat conter.
    Nostra Real Senyera no s'agenolla davant ningu...

    ¡Gloria a la Patria, Vixca Valencia!

  2. #2
    Creuat de lo Regne Avatar de RafaP
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    Tot te una sencilla explicació, 1er el papa, no va parlar en cagalà, senzillament va llegir este missal que havien fet per l'ocasió Messale famiglia Sacra Spagna (l'enllaç vos du al texte que va llegir, pero no el que ell portava, puix ixe esta escrit foneticament)
    2on, al ser la consagració d'un temple el text es molt més ampli, i per a que poguera consagrarlo, ¿sabieu que tingueren que acabar la techà rapidament? puix si no esta tancat el recinte no se pot consagrar a la misa.

    3er, en la visita que va fer a Valencia (la primera que va fer a Espanya) el text que va llegir va ser per lliure elecció, i no per imposició, cas que no es el mateix que en esta ocasió.

    Puix bé tot açó es lo que hi ha
    Millor callar i paréixer estúpit que parlar i dixar qualsevol dubte.

  3. #3
    Cavaller Centenar Avatar de Kingdom71
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    Encara ixirà alguno dient que "en español nos entendemos todos" , pero no vaig a entrar en el drap, perque açò m'encen. I personalment, la esglesia a mi m'influix 0 en les meues creences, cadascú porta la creença dins, desdeluego, la esglesia valenciana com a entitat que es i la gent que la conforma m'ha demostrat que son uns porritos.

    Que nomes fan que fotre a les nostres tradicions i a la nostra llengua valenciana

  4. #4
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de Xavier
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    Es curiosa la noticia i ademes que l´arreplegue el "Llevante".

  5. #5
    Moderador Global
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    Curioso que el Levante manipula y cambia las palabras que dijo el Papa en la Plaza de la Virgen.

    P.e. Ampareumos, vullc, Desamparats, todas muy claras

    Che collons el Levante, ¿eso es legal, entrecomillar y cambiar las palabras?

    http://www.ampareumos.com/modules.ph...rticle&sid=839

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U74j0...layer_embedded

    Es que, joder, el error de pronunciación lo reproducen tal cual, pero las palabras que dijo en valenciano las cambian.



  6. #6
    Moderador Global
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    Levante:

    «Davant de la Geperudeta [y ahí se trabó y dijo un extraño Cherepucheta] vull dir-li: Empareu-nos nit i dia en totes les necessitats, puix que sou, Verge Maria, Mare dels Desemparats»

    Realidad:

    “Davant de la Cheperudeta [y ahí se trabó y dijo un extraño Cherepucheta] vullc dirli: "Ampareumos nit i dia en totes les necessitats, puix que sou, Verge María, Mare dels Desamparats”.

    http://www.visitadelpapa2010.org/es/viajes

  7. #7
    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de Fayostros
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    Cita Iniciado por Tirant
    Levante:

    «Davant de la Geperudeta [y ahí se trabó y dijo un extraño Cherepucheta] vull dir-li: Empareu-nos nit i dia en totes les necessitats, puix que sou, Verge Maria, Mare dels Desemparats»

    Realidad:

    “Davant de la Cheperudeta [y ahí se trabó y dijo un extraño Cherepucheta] vullc dirli: "Ampareumos nit i dia en totes les necessitats, puix que sou, Verge María, Mare dels Desamparats”.

    http://www.visitadelpapa2010.org/es/viajes
    Exacte, aixo val mes que 1000 paraules.

    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

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    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    Millor es que haguera dit: "lleveu el catalá dels coleges valencians,amén"
    Y ací perfet,tots tan contents volant cachirulos...

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    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de Xavier
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    Si, Tirant, tens tota la rao i canvien les paraules que digué el Papa, ademes ho vaig escoltar en directe i aixo de "Empareumos" no ho va dir. Ya sabem tots com es el "Llevante".

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    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de 1245
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    Cita Iniciado por Tirant
    Curioso que el Levante manipula y cambia las palabras que dijo el Papa en la Plaza de la Virgen.

    P.e. Ampareumos, vullc, Desamparats, todas muy claras

    Che collons el Levante, ¿eso es legal, entrecomillar y cambiar las palabras?

    http://www.ampareumos.com/modules.ph...rticle&sid=839

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U74j0...layer_embedded

    Es que, joder, el error de pronunciación lo reproducen tal cual, pero las palabras que dijo en valenciano las cambian.


    I com no, l'articul redactat de nou per.... ¡¡Paco Cerdà!!

    S'activa la maquinaria belica del Regne en la protocolaria colocacio de la Real Senyera en les Torres de Serrans; accio que significava la declaracio de guerra "a sanc i foc"

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    Re: 865 en català i 22 en valencià.

    Cita Iniciado por nrf_blau
    http://www.levante-emv.com/comunitat-valenciana/2010/11/08/papa-865-palabras-catalan-dijo-22-valenciano/754877.html

    INICIOACTUALIDADDEPORTESOPINIÓNECONOMÍAGENTE Y OCIOSEMANALESPARTICIPACIÓNSERVICIOSC. Valenciana Valencia Comarcas Castelló Panorama Sucesos Internacional España Sociedad Cultura Tecnología Documentos Levante-EMV.com » Comunitat Valenciana Iglesia
    El Papa usa 865 palabras en catalán y dijo 22 en valenciano
    Declaraciones incendiarias al margen, la visita de Benedicto XVI a España ha destacado por el amplio uso del catalán que ayer hizo en Barcelona. El Papa Ratzinger pronunció 865 palabras en catalán, mientras que sólo dijo 22 en valenciano durante su visita a Valencia en 2006. La razón, según los expertos, hay que buscarla en «la voluntad de los arzobispados».


    ¿Que penseu?

    El Levante-EMV diferenciant entre català i valencià, per fi s'han donat conter.
    Yo pense que quasevol famoset que vaja a Catalunya esta en la obligacio de dir unes paraules en catala mes que res perque lo que mes tenen els catalans es dines i influencies pa obligar a qui siga a que parle el seu dialecte barceloni encara que siguen unes parauletes o en el cas del papa 865.
    Gav Gandia

    GAV des de 1977 fent valencianisme y mes forts que mai...

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    Moderador Avatar de nrf_blau
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    Lo que m'extranya és que quan el Levante vol tindre noticia, si que RECONEIX que el valencià no és un dialecte del català.
    Nostra Real Senyera no s'agenolla davant ningu...

    ¡Gloria a la Patria, Vixca Valencia!

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