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Tema: Yoan o Joan?

  1. #1
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    08 nov, 06
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    Yoan o Joan?

    No se si hi ha algun filolec per asi, pero si sa rechasat projecte per ser cacalanista i s'admitit que l'autentic valensiá es proyecte, ¿perque no fem lo mateis en els noms?? es a dir, Joan es cacala, Yoan es valensiá, Josep es cacalá, Chusep es valensiá i aixina en un llarc etcetera.

  2. #2
    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    26 oct, 06
    Ubicación
    Massanassa
    Mensajes
    550
    A vore vlcenlluita, no tens que comparar ixes coses. Ni han unes normes fetes, i diuen que la Y [ll] grega s'escriu quant:
    - Està en posicio inicial de paraula i va seguida de vocal:
    Per eixemple: Yo, ya, yugular...
    - Quant va en posicio interior de paraula, sempre entre vocals:
    Per eixemple: apoyar, feya, yayo...

    Pero en el cas dels noms propis ni han moltes excepcions...

    En quant a la CH, s'escriu sempre que tinga el so [che] independentment del puesto a on vaja, llevant de quant va a final de paraula que s'escriu IG.
    Eixemples: Roig, Goig, mig.... chafar, puncha, porchada...

    Una volta mes, en el cas dels noms propis ni han moltes excepcions.

    Lo que no podem ni debem fer es escriure anarquicament, aixo l'unic que farà es perjudicar-mos.

    Salut!

  3. #3
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    16 sep, 06
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    yo crec k Yoan, Chusep... axina es com ho pronuncien els que no parlen valencià.
    Yo tota la vida he dit i he sentit Joan i Josep...
    Valencians...¡Parlem Valencià!
    ¡Lo millor per a defendre una llengua es parlarla!
    <img src=\'http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2118/2016/1600/senyeraestrelada.jpg\'>
    ¡¡VIXCA LA PATRIA!!

  4. #4
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    08 nov, 06
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    202
    en tot cas auras ascoltat yoan y yosep.

  5. #5
    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
    Fecha de ingreso
    25 ago, 06
    Ubicación
    Picassent
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    7,387
    Yo crec que s'hauria de pronunciar "chuan" i "chusep". Ya que en valencià la lletra "j" se pronuncia "ch". Per aixo en el SUBnormaliTZat diuen "jo" pronunciantlo "llo".

    Crec que qualsevol "j" que se pronuncie "y" o "ll" te que vore molt en el català.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

  6. #6
    Moderador Global Avatar de El_capo71
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    02 ene, 06
    Mensajes
    9,381
    Cita Iniciado por Llauis
    A vore vlcenlluita, no tens que comparar ixes coses. Ni han unes normes fetes, i diuen que la Y [ll] grega s'escriu quant:
    - Està en posicio inicial de paraula i va seguida de vocal:
    Per eixemple: Yo, ya, yugular...
    - Quant va en posicio interior de paraula, sempre entre vocals:
    Per eixemple: apoyar, feya, yayo...

    Pero en el cas dels noms propis ni han moltes excepcions...

    En quant a la CH, s'escriu sempre que tinga el so [che] independentment del puesto a on vaja, llevant de quant va a final de paraula que s'escriu IG.
    Eixemples: Roig, Goig, mig.... chafar, puncha, porchada...

    Una volta mes, en el cas dels noms propis ni han moltes excepcions.

    Lo que no podem ni debem fer es escriure anarquicament, aixo l'unic que farà es perjudicar-mos.

    Salut!
    D'acord en tu!

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    Yo crec que s'hauria de pronunciar "chuan" i "chusep". Ya que en valencià la lletra "j" se pronuncia "ch". Per aixo en el SUBnormaliTZat diuen "jo" pronunciantlo "llo".

    Crec que qualsevol "j" que se pronuncie "y" o "ll" te que vore molt en el català.
    totalment dacort en tu, per Yoan o Choan, Chusep o Yusep. No als antroponims cacalanistes en lo Regne!!

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    Estic deacuerdo en voro smt,

    Si tota la vida s'ha dit Joan i Josep, ara no tenim que discutir per ixes cosses, que ja tenim prou en els de la Espanya del nord.

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    Yo crec que deu escriures Joan y dirse [Chuan].
    Yo he sentit tota la vida dir [Chuan].

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    Yo digo lo que he oido siempre y eso que no soy valenciano-parlante.

    Se escribe Joan, pero se pronuncia "Chuan", de hecho tengo un colega que se llama asi y en el colegio los profesores catalanistas le decian Joan y se obligaban a escribir su nombre tal como lo decian es decir "Joan", eso me da a entender que si esos profesores le llamaban tal como escribia el nombre muy valenciana la pronunciacion de "Joan" no debe ser.

    Yo me inclino por llamarlo "Chuan".

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    si home... yo crec ke el so del CH es del valencià apichat, com dijous alguns diuen dichous.

    Igual com caSa (esse sonora) diuen caSSa (esse sorda).

    Salut!
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    ¡Lo millor per a defendre una llengua es parlarla!
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    Si, el so es valencià "apitxat" jo tinc un problema, soc d´Alacant i per a mi jo parle valencià, pero no m´identifique en el so "ch" de "dichous", per exemple.
    Uyyy!
    Algu més d´Alacant??!!

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    Re: Yoan o Joan?

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    No se si hi ha algun filolec per asi, pero si sa rechasat projecte per ser cacalanista i s'admitit que l'autentic valensiá es proyecte, ¿perque no fem lo mateis en els noms?? es a dir, Joan es cacala, Yoan es valensiá, Josep es cacalá, Chusep es valensiá i aixina en un llarc etcetera.
    Aço ya me pareix massa... voleu matar a la llengua valenciana o que?

    Millor seria que tots posarem una miqueta mes d'interes en deprendre-la be.

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