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  1. #1
    Tinent de lo Regne
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    Escacs

    Ahir en u dels canals de la 9,vaig vore ya començat un documental que estaven parlant dels origens del joc d'escacs. La meua sorpresa segue quan la persona que esta investigant sobre l'orige d'este joc, el situa en valencia en el sigle XV, i les normes del joc escrites en valencià.
    Si algu pot ampliar esta noticia,sera benvinguda per tots.
    ¡¡¡flipant,¿no?!!!
    adlerta Le gusta esto.

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    EL PRIMER TRATADO DE AJEDREZ PUBLICADO EN EL MUNDO FUE ESCRITO POR UN VALENCIANO , PARA QUE LUEGO DIGAN

    Fue en el siglo XV y en Valencia cuando aparece por primera vez la dama en un manuscrito Scachs d'amor, en el que figuran composiciones en valenciano y de poetas valencianos. Unos años más tarde, en el 1495 se publica en Valencia y en lengua valenciana el libro del segorbino Francesc Vicent Llibre dels jochs partits dels schachs, considerado el primer tratado de ajedrez publicado en el mundo, y en el que figura también la dama; no apareciendo en ninguna documentación anterior ni coetánea a ambas obras. Nace pues en Valencia a finales del siglo XV la dama, precisamente en 1475 según ha acreditado José Antonio Garzón Roger, inspirada en la Reina Isabel la Católica según el libro del año 1997 del historiador holandés Govert Westerveld, [1] cuya hipótesis fue confirmada documentalmente por el historiador valenciano José Antonio Garzón Roger. La fecha de 1475 ya fue indicada por Garzón en el año 2003 y las pruebas definitivas (filigrana y conjunción planetaria) constan en su libro de 2005.
    adlerta Le gusta esto.
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    La palabra 'Reino' estorba al proyecto 'pancatalanista' por la simple razón de que un 'Reino' no puede englobarse en un principado. Un 'país', en cambio, sí puede 'añadirse' a un mapa de 'paísos'
    (pilar urbano)

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Gracias Rinconet... Por si sirve de algo yo tambien he consultado el tema y queria decir la fecha de publicacion del "Llibre dels jochs partits dels schacs en nombre de 100" que según Wikipedia fue el 15 de mayo de 1.495 y en la imprenta de Lope de Roca y Pedro Trincher. Y como curiosidad hacer notar que por parte de las personas de Segorbe fue conseguido que al autor -Francesh Vicent- le fuera dedicado un asteroide.
    adlerta Le gusta esto.

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    El coneiximent de que els escacs moderns naixen en valencia es antic. I la prova era el poema "escacs d'amor". Lo que fa Garzon es intuir que "El Vicent" es el primer tractat modern d'escacs. I escriu dos treballs fonamental "en busca del Vicent" que mereixeria una pelicula, ahon narra les vicisitut dels poquets eixemplars conegutrs perseguint el llibre per la bibliografia on se¡l nomena fins la seua desaparició definitiva.
    La segon obra es "el retorno del Vicent" Treball d'investigació que rescata "el Vicent" desde les reimpresions basicament italianes, crec recordar.Tal volta un día aparega algun eixemplar del Vicent en estat original.
    Una historia apasionant, en la que ls valencians han tingut que treballar d evalet pera demostrar sense que capia cap ducte la valencianía del invent. En esta historia jua un chicotet paper el meu llibrer de vell preferit. El jove Rafael Solaz
    Valencia, Cuna del Ajedrez Moderno
    Lobivalentian Le gusta esto.
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  5. #5
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    Bueno, puix ahi queda aixo.
    M'encanta haver descubert este tema, al igual que tindre companyers tan ilustats.

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    Bueno, puix ahi queda aixo.
    M'encanta haver descubert este tema, al igual que tindre companyers tan ilustats.
    Per lo que a mi respecta d'ilustrat res, lo que pasa es que en eixe tema se me junten tres pasions. Els escacs, la llengua valenciana, i els llibres antics.
    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

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  7. #7
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    Per lo que a mi respecta d'ilustrat res, lo que pasa es que en eixe tema se me junten tres pasions. Els escacs, la llengua valenciana, i els llibres antics.
    Bo es estar illustrat d'estos temes,Adlerta.
    Açó es del "Anecdotario histórico valenciano" de M.Francisca Olmedo de Cardá.


    Vos recomane el llibre.
    Última edición por Lobivalentian; 19/09/2011 a las 11:32

  8. #8
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    Conec una llegenda en la que diu, que el joc d'escacs li va ser presentat a un faraó per un matemàtic d'Aleixandria, (o de Constantinopla, no me'n recorde be) com el joc de taula mes complet que n'hi havia en eixe moment.

    El faraó, impressionat per lo magnífic del joc, li va oferir al matemàtic, que li demanara el regal que vullguera, sempre que fora una cosa material que estiguera en la seua ma donar-se-la.

    El matemàtic li va demanar forment, de esta manera:

    Agarrant el tauler d'escacs, de 64 caselles, se posarien en la primera casella dos granets de forment. En la segon quatre granets. En la tercera huit grans. En la quarta setze grans, i aixina doblant la cantitat successivament fins a completar les 64 caselles del tauler.

    Al cap del rat, vingué un dels sabis del faraó i li va dir: No n'hi ha tant de forment en tot lo regne per a complir la pretensió del matemàtic.

    El faraó reconegué els coneiximents del matemàtic, quedant impressionat de la seua sabiduria.

  9. #9
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Se conocia

    yo tambien conocia la leyende sobre los granos.

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