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Castell "vermell" d'ibi

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Tema: Castell "vermell" d'ibi

  1. #1
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de ariant
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    Castell "vermell" d'ibi

    Ya fa unes semanes, poc antes de nadal, estaba escoltant la radio y crec que el programa s'emitia desde IBI. Parlaven de les coses del poble y va ixir un chic comentant sobre unes escoles de musica o una agrupacio musical -no m'hen recorde be- y el seu nom es "Castell Vermell" pues fa alusio a un dels dos castells que te el poble.

    Lo primer que em va va vindre al cap es que ells s'ha anomenaran Castell "Vermell" pero que segur historicament eixe castell no s'hauria dit mai aixina sino "Castell Roig".

    Efectivamente, despues he pogut comprovar que el nom sempre ha segut "Castell Roig":

    "El Castell Vell, situado en el barranc dels Molins, en lo alto de un promontorio rocoso, permitía vigilar y dominar el paso hacia la zona de Polop. De origen árabe, parece ser que con la Reconquista y la estabilización de la población a los pies del "Castell Roig" o "Vermell", situado en la actual ermita de Santa Lucía, pasó a segundo plano, y posiblemente sería abandonado, manteniéndose el "Roig", y de ahí, probablemente, la denominación popular de "Castell Vell".

    De esta forma, Martín de Viciana, en su "Crónica del siglo XVI", dice que en Ibi hay dos castillos, el uno llamado "Roig" y el otro Castillo Viejo."

    Total que lo de "vermell" es de nova planta pero hara, per lo vist, ya s'ha posat de "moda". Vamos, que els de sempre ya heu han conseguit, una volta mes.


    Vullc afegir que vaig deixar un comentari en el blog:


    Si historicamente es conegut com "Castell Roig ¿per que ara, pera reivindicar la Historia, heu cambieu per "vermell"?

    Pareix que'ls valencians no tingam sanc en les venes.


    (Encara que no crec que aixo servixca pera res)

  2. #2
    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    Si els chics se fíen del "subnormalitzat",puix rebujarán al valencianisme -roig per el galicisme -vermell (en castellá -bermellón).
    En valenciá eixe color es més paregut al morat...
    Última edición por Lobivalentian; 15/01/2012 a las 19:03

  3. #3
    Moderador Global Avatar de El_capo71
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    Per desgracia eixa es la realitat. ¿Qui està governant en l'actualitat en eixa poblacio? Podriem intentar fer alguna campanya des de aci (dependix de qui governe tambe).
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    Cavaller Centenar Avatar de Kingdom71
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    de tota la vida s'ha anomenat Castell Roig , ademes hi ha un poble que es diu aixina si no recorde malament

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    Moderador Global Avatar de El_capo71
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    Com era d'esperar poble governat pel PP. ¿Que fem?
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    de tota la vida s'ha anomenat Castell Roig , ademes hi ha un poble que es diu aixina si no recorde malament
    a mi el que me ve al cap es "Canet lo Roig"
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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Recuerdo que una vez, en unas fiestas de Benidorm, hace unos 15 años, en una "plantá" de fallas, hubo una que estaba dedicada a los cuentos infantiles; y no pudo faltar, entre otros, la horrorosa inscripción "La caputxeta vermella" ("Caperucheta roja" en valenciano). El único destello de decencia es que el título, al menos, apareció entrecomillado: pero pese a ello, creedme que hacía un daño a la vista brutal.

    Cita Iniciado por El_capo71 Ver mensaje
    Com era d'esperar poble governat pel PP. ¿Que fem?
    Tirar al seu alcalde al fem (lo digo en valenciano porque me ha venido "a huevo").
    Última edición por Rudyweiss; 16/01/2012 a las 09:09
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    No patiu, que si mos descuidem, mos cambien el nom hasda del nostre gos. Aixina de modificacions tan "naturals" n'hi han un fum
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