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Els culpables de la vital catalanisacio del Regne.

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    Els culpables de la vital catalanisacio del Regne.

    Vullguera que algú em diguera quins son els culpables de la catalanisacio que estem patint en lo Regne de Valencia, perque pense que els catalanets, lo que comenzaren a fer, fon que aprofitaren l'inclinacio de certs valencians cap ad ells i ara tenim lo que tenim per eixos motius.

    A vore si em digueu algo sobre el tema.

    ¿Qué penseu vosatros?

    Es la primer vegá que estic ací; perdoneume pero no sé molt be com funciona açó.
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    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de Regne_Valencia
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    Els primers valencians foren traidors per els diners. Els de hui uns per diners i atres per ignorancia. Els de dema, per adoctrinament.
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    CATALANISTES GO HOME!!

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    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de Campanar86
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    Mi visión sobre el tema, es algo así:
    En sus comienzos, el independentismo catalán fué el resultado de la soberbia adquirida por ciertos sectores de la sociedad catalana en la epoca de la "renaixença". A lo cual, manipulación, tras manipulación (porque para presentarse al mundo como una nación independiente, necesitaban diferenciarse de España en ciertos aspectos, como la Lengua,etc etc) consiguieron ir convenciendo a una parte de la población. Una vez llegado el franquismo, con su consiguiente censura (que no prohibición), ese independentismo saltó a los sectores más radicales de la izquierda por el simple hecho de llevar la contraria y querer sentirse perseguidos y anti-sistema (suena absurdo, lo se xD).En esa época nos encontraremos con unos iluminados Valencianos que dirán...oye! Pues a mi me cuadra lo que dice esta gente, y se sumarán a su movimiento por el hecho de sentir un gran respaldo. Así pues, estos valencianos tuvieron acceso a propagar sus ideas, y convencer a la gente que tenían a mano. Puesto que en aquellos años, no olvidemos que Franco nunca perdonó a Valencia que fuera el último reducto republicano (no olvidemos que el valencianismo tuvo una gran importancia en el republicanismo valenciano de la época), repetimos, la censura estaba a la orden del día. Esa generación de estudiantes y allegados, se apuntaron a la moda, repito, por llevar la contraria. Y ahí tuvimos el caldo de cultivo de lo que vivimos hoy en dia: Izquierda contraria al régimen + deformación hacia la izquierda de un movimiento independentista. El resto de la historia, ha sido todo por pura inercia.
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    La historia no se compra

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    Sargent Centenar Avatar de Llepolies
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    Mira, el pijor enemic del valencianisme, el principal culpable de dita catalanisació som els valencians, el poble valencià, puix no per que si, se mos diu que som uns mesinfots i que tenim la sanc d'orchata. La nostra pasivitat front a les agresions que sufrim a nostra cultura han propiciat ni més ni manco lo que tenim hui en dia, en la ajuda clar està, de nostres amics polítics, convertint este tema cultural en polític. Si be és cert que els socialistes mos regalen al catalanisme, per lo manco, els PPeros son mes listos, i mos venen....puix gratis tenim poques coses en esta vida. Pacte de Reus: Pacte de Reus - Uiquipèdia
    Pero per lo manco encara quedem gent que volem defendre lo nostre, i tu també pots er uno de estos, lo principal seria el intentar coneixer nostra dolça llengua valenciana, eixa que mos negen pero que els nostres autors tenien sempre en els seus escrits, i nostres yayos en la seua boca.
    Yo vullc pasarte unes quantes ferramentes per poder escriure be en valencià, el de les normes del puig Normes d'El Puig - Uiquipèdia.

    Buscador de cites, fiques una paraula i te trau cites de nostres autors: DHIVAM - Diccionari Historic de l'Idioma Valenci Modern - Ricart Garcia Moya ..: SoftwareValenci :..
    Corrector softwarevalencià: Corrector Ortogr
    Diccionari RACV: Diccionari Ortogràfic de Valencià [Secció de Llengua i Lliteratura Valencianes]
    Diccionari Softwarevalencià: Diccionari Vocabulari Valenci-Castell Castellano-Valenciano ..: SoftwareValenci :..
    Traductor softwarevalencià: Traductor Castellà Valencià automatic de text ..: SoftwareValencià :..
    Diccionari Valenciafreedom (castellà-valencià-català): Diccionari - Valenciafreedom - La web que lucha contra la imposicion catalanista

    També dirte que si vas a "Mon Perfil" i des de ahí baixes baix del tot de la pàgina, i selecciones el idioma valencià, se quedarà guardat, en canvi si heu fas des de la pàgina de inici o qualsevol atre puesto, al tornar a entrar se ficara automàticament atra volta el castellà.

    I recorda que mosatros som nostres pijor enemics, si tingerem els collons aon toca, no dixariem que nostra llengua i cultura la chafaren com heu fan.
    Un abraç molt blau i benvingut a la web.
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    I (L)

    No plores per una terra que lluita, lluita per una terra que plora!

    Che, quin goig, tenim un gran diccionari (valencià-català-castellà)!
    http://www.valenciafreedom.com/va/diccionari/inici.html

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    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de Campanar86
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    Añadir, que además de lo nombrado anteriormente, las teorías independentistas, en sus círculos más íntimos, consideran Valencia la piedra angular de su proyecto, puesto que sin esa pieza del puzzle, la idea caería por su propio peso. Ya que sin Valencia, su "lengua" perdería la Historia que dicen tener, además de otros conceptos de su cultura, usurpados de la nuestra. A lo cual, se suman los intereses políticos. Todo el mundo sabe que el poder corrompe. Y como en España de corruptos vamos sobrados, llegado el momento, nuestros partidos se vieron obligados para sumar apoyos, a adquirir diferentes conceptos (sea lengua, bandera, nomenclatura) importados desde esa región al Norte de Nostre Regne. Al sumar esos apoyos, pasan a tener un poder considerable, que es lo único que busca la clase política. Una vez con poder y respaldo, solo faltaba terminar de ejecutar el plan ideado en su día. La falsa normalización de la lengua bajo la consigna de una futura unificación, e ir tergiversando la historia para que, poco a poco y con el paso de los años, sean más los valencianos que por el simple hecho de ser de izquierdas, asuman, y crean lo que se dicta desde Cataluña, y llegado el momento...unificar territorios, sea bajo soberanía española, o independiente. Y todo ello con la complicidad de unos políticos ansiosos de poder, sea PP (AVL, etc,) PSPV (el nombre lo dice todo), EUPV, Compromís, etc.

    (CON ESTO, ACLARO, QUIERO EXPLICAR LA FORMA DE ACTUAR DEL CATALANISMO, NI MUCHO MENOS QUE YO QUIERA QUE LOS HECHOS SE SUCEDAN ASÍ)
    La historia no se compra

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    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de freeblau
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    La cosa es tan simple com que quan tu tens un tesor pero no li dones valor o no saps el valor que te, sempre vindra algu a llevar-te-lo, aixo es lo que le esta passant a Valencia no es un atra cosa, si no foren els catalans mos la furtarien atres lo que esta clar es que la gent no sap el valor que te la llengua, historia i cultura valenciana, i l´importancia real que te en el context de la historia mundial, els catalans que son molt llests si lo saben.

    Necessitem una nova renaixença que torne a fer vore a la gent el tesor que tenen, que es nostre de tots els valencians i sentir-mos orgullosos de defendre.
    POPEPO, DonChusep, AuroraBoreal y 1 más Les gusta esto.

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    Culpable qui mana, qui ho consentix, el PP.
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    Nostra Real Senyera no s'agenolla davant ningu...

    ¡Gloria a la Patria, Vixca Valencia!

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    Tinent de lo Regne
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    Yo pense que els valencians sense dubte.
    Tenim lo que votem.
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    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de Xavier
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    L´explicacio de Campanar es prou encertada pero tinc que dir una cosa, està clar que els principals culpables som els valencians, perque politicament sempre havem votat a partits centralistes que prenen els acorts en Madrit i algunes voltes en o de Barcelona. El pancatalanisme tambe té la culpa pero perque l´havem deixat entrar en nostre regne. Pense la clau de la qüestio està en l´epoca de prosperitat del franquisme i la massiva immigracio interior. Vos ho explique, quan Valencia era molt prospera, quan l´economia de l´Estat depenia de les exportacions tarongeres i citrics en general davant el tancament de fronteres d´atres paisos front al franquisme, les terres valencianes soportaren una gran immigracio (d´Andalusia, d´Arago, de Castella, etc...) arribant a un moment que la gent de 'fora' era mes numerosa que els propis de dins, per lo tant, tota esta gent s´han incorporat en nostra societat mantenint les seues raïls i sense importar-lis res la valencia, el nostre sentiment valencià i durant el temps a l´hora de votar no senten 'els colors'.
    ariant Le gusta esto.

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    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de Xavier
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    Volia dir.: ... sense importar-lis res la valenciania.
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    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de freeblau
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    Tens molta rao Xavier potser un del motius, en catalunya per eixemple va haver molta inmigracio tambe pero van tindre ademes una classe social alta i uns politics que van vore que el defendre les seues rails les podia fer mes rics, i aci encara se lo estan rumiant, n´hi ha que reconeixer que els nostres son un poquet lents vaig a dir-ho aixina.
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    En els anys 70 i 80 sigue l'esquerra qui capitanejà el proces de catalanisacio de nostre Regne. A partir dels anys 90, quan arriba el PP, estos no feren absolutament res per a llevar el català i als catalanistes de les administracions, sino que recolzaren i blindaren en l'estatut d'autonomia el català (cosa que no s'atrevi el PSPV), fent l'Academia Valenciana de la Llengua catalana, oficial en tot nostre territori.

    P.D: benvingut a la casa del valencianisme i que lluita front a l'mperialisme catalaniste.
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    L´explicacio de Campanar es prou encertada pero tinc que dir una cosa, està clar que els principals culpables som els valencians, perque politicament sempre havem votat a partits centralistes que prenen els acorts en Madrit i algunes voltes en o de Barcelona. El pancatalanisme tambe té la culpa pero perque l´havem deixat entrar en nostre regne. Pense la clau de la qüestio està en l´epoca de prosperitat del franquisme i la massiva immigracio interior. Vos ho explique, quan Valencia era molt prospera, quan l´economia de l´Estat depenia de les exportacions tarongeres i citrics en general davant el tancament de fronteres d´atres paisos front al franquisme, les terres valencianes soportaren una gran immigracio (d´Andalusia, d´Arago, de Castella, etc...) arribant a un moment que la gent de 'fora' era mes numerosa que els propis de dins, per lo tant, tota esta gent s´han incorporat en nostra societat mantenint les seues raïls i sense importar-lis res la valencia, el nostre sentiment valencià i durant el temps a l´hora de votar no senten 'els colors'.
    Aixo es cert hasda cert punt, pero yo vullc recordar aci a molta gent de fora que defengué ila llengua com qualsevol valencià.

    P.S. Per cert benvingut Art Val. Yo lo que cambiaria es el titul del post. ¿vital? Serà mortal ¿no?
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    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

    FRONT A L'IMPERIALISME CATALÁ

    JOVENS LLIURES VALENCIANS

    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

    UNIXTE A MOSATROS

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    Senyor de lo Regne Avatar de POPEPO
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    Vullguera que algú em diguera quins son els culpables de la catalanisacio que estem patint en lo Regne de Valencia, perque pense que els catalanets, lo que comenzaren a fer, fon que aprofitaren l'inclinacio de certs valencians cap ad ells i ara tenim lo que tenim per eixos motius.

    A vore si em digueu algo sobre el tema.

    ¿Qué penseu vosatros?

    Es la primer vegá que estic ací; perdoneume pero no sé molt be com funciona açó.
    Hola. Benvingut. Espere que te vajes agarrant a la web.

    Es una pregunta molt interesant per a ser contestada. Primer perque es l´idioma natural d´este poble; segon, perque hi ha que tindre en conte que este poble es el responsable directe de sa destrucció cultural; i tercer, perque es una forma més de demostrar que encara queda gent disposta -parlant i esribint en valencià- a preocupar-se per l´ideología valencianista. Formes de defendre nostra cultura hi han moltes, pero una cosa es defedre la cultura i atra be distinta es fer cultura.

    Este tipo de preguntes -profundisant en nostra essència- com la que has plantejat, pareixen molt sencilles de respondre. O, com a mínim, pareix que hi ha una clara resposta. En ma opinió, tots sabem respondre-les, encara que si ho pensem be, es difícil expresar-les. Espere que tant les respostes dels companyers com la meua, te hajen servit d´ajuda per a elaborar per tú mateixa, la teua propia.

    I aprofitant que es ton primer mensage en la web, vullc dir-te un parell de coses:

    En primer lloc, la paraula vital, com adjectiu ve a significar algo relatiu a la vida. Suponc que no has vollgut parlar d´una catalanisació "de la vida",
    ni d´una catalanisació fonamental o imprescindible (l´atre significat de la paraula vital). Espere que pugues aclararir-ho pronte.

    I per a concluoure, t´aconselle que desconfíes de qui sostenga que la culpa de nostra perdua d´identitat (catalanisació) es dels catalanistes. Perque la culpa de que, per eixemple, nostre idioma valencià no siga reconegut internacionalment en el sigle XXI, es absolutament nostra. De tú, de mi i de tots. Sense excepció. I només qui accepte (al meu entendre) eixa culpabilitat pot fer valencianisme... un valencianisme en lletres mayúscules.
    I a eixe valencianisme, pots entregar-te sense por a etiquetes i radicalisme.
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    Última edición por POPEPO; 27/03/2012 a las 03:32
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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    constituçio Espanyola = ruina per a VALENÇIA,i les proves estan per tot lo reyno.
    culpables els pares d' la constituçio q' la varen fer pa eills,i discriminaren al resto d' Espanya.
    pd. la orchata no te res roin.
    ariant Le gusta esto.

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