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Tema: El catalán deja de ser imposición en Aragón

  1. #16
    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de Fayostros
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    el que parlen a l'atra part d'aragó que es aragones occidental? muahahaha
    LO que parlen a l'atra part d'aragó que es aragones occidental? muahahaha

    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

  2. #17
    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de Ramon VI
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    Sabràs millor que yo per ser aragonés. Pero no entenc una cosa: he sentit parlar i llegit en "aragonés oriental" y també en aragonés, y no se semble gens. El aragonés se sembla més al gascó o a l'aranés, ab una mescla de gallec, mentre que l'aragonés oriental se sembla més a lo que parlen en Lleida. Estic perdut.
    Rudyweiss Le gusta esto.

  3. #18
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    Todo eso es una sarta de mentiras ... Y por cierto ... El "patués" no forma parte del septentrional sino que es la más norteña de las hablas orientales ...



    Hay que ver lo manipulada que está la peña.

    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

  4. #19
    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Sabràs millor que yo per ser aragonés. Pero no entenc una cosa: he sentit parlar i llegit en "aragonés oriental" y també en aragonés, y no se semble gens. El aragonés se sembla més al gascó o a l'aranés, ab una mescla de gallec, mentre que l'aragonés oriental se sembla més a lo que parlen en Lleida. Estic perdut.
    1.- Ya me dirás en qué siglos el Pirineo perteneció a un hipotético Reino de Galicia. Porque que yo sepa, Galicia está más lejos de Aragón que la própia Andalucía. Es como usar de argumento la palatalización de las "l" iniciales para afirmar que el catalán viene del bable, o que dicho elemento y las terminaciones en femenino plural en "-es" para considerar el valenciano como derivado de dicha lengua asturiana.

    2.- Parecerse dos lenguas no es lo mismo que decir que son la misma o que es dialecto una de otra; y menos si comparamos a una lengua aún viva con otra que probablemente está más muerta que un dodó (leridano). Además, al mismo tiempo, el oriental se divide en dos subgrupos separados por el Ebro; y uno de sus rasgos distintivos es la palatalización postconsonántica de la "l" en la modalidad nororiental, que además, se va gasconizando y tomando rasgos de su pariente septentrional cuanto más se acerca uno a los Valles de Gistaín y de Arán. Y la suroriental, por contra, no se le puede negar un cierto parecido con el valenciano.
    (¡¡¡CLINC!!! ¡¡¡CLINC!!! ¡¡¡CLINC!!!) ¡¡¡WARROSSSSS ... VAMOS A JUGAAAAAAR!!!





    ... LAS LENGUAS ENVIDIOSAS ... SEAN FRITAS (FRANÇOIS VILLON).

    LOS CATALUFOS Y PANCUZOS, SON COMO LOS HIJOS DE BERDOLÉ ... QUE A SU PRÓPIO PADRE PRETENDÍAN ENSEÑARLE A ENGENDRAR BEBÉS.

  5. #20
    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Lo que no m'explique (¿o si?) per qué el PP de valencia obra diferent al PP de Arago i Balears.
    Quizás, porque al no tener mayoría absoluta y verse obligado a pactar con el PAR, no le ha quedado más remedio ... su anterior coalición con el PSOE, pese a no poder evitar que nos metieran el "Huevo del Cuco" o "Barretinazo" (aunque deberían haber roto la coalición), nos evitó males mucho mayores.
    Fayostros Le gusta esto.
    (¡¡¡CLINC!!! ¡¡¡CLINC!!! ¡¡¡CLINC!!!) ¡¡¡WARROSSSSS ... VAMOS A JUGAAAAAAR!!!





    ... LAS LENGUAS ENVIDIOSAS ... SEAN FRITAS (FRANÇOIS VILLON).

    LOS CATALUFOS Y PANCUZOS, SON COMO LOS HIJOS DE BERDOLÉ ... QUE A SU PRÓPIO PADRE PRETENDÍAN ENSEÑARLE A ENGENDRAR BEBÉS.

  6. #21
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    Chico, lo vengo diciendo durante mucho tiempo, a vosotros los aragoneses no os haran lo que a el resto, sois diferentes (para bien) teneis mas sentido de la propiedad. Claro esta vuestros politicos tambien, (son aragoneses) no mamaran todo lo que les hechen.
    En Valencia lo que queda superclaro es que el PP es catalanista. A santo de que con mayoria absoluta tantisimos años tendriamos la comunidad catalanizada.
    Mi mas sincera enhorabuena y admiracion.
    adlerta Le gusta esto.

  7. #22
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    No es que me quiera hacer ilusiones, pero todo lo que posibilite que, por ejemplo, los fragatinos puedan seguir diciendo "mullarero" y "mullareré" y no "pressec" y "presseguer", "meno" y no "vedell", "llimpllá" o "llimpllea" y no "netejar" o "neteja", "astí" y no "aquí", "engrineta" y no "oreneta", "moixó" y no "ocell", ·"segallosa" y no "boira", "escarabatina" y no "panerola", "esllisá" y no "relliscar", "cantó, rincó" y no "racó", "permanéixe" y no "romandre", "onso" y no "os", "chicolate" y no "xocolata", "chaminera" y no "xemeneia", "per fabor" y no "si us plau", "casibé" y no "gairebé", "aire" y no "vent", "aladre" y no "arada o llaura", "allabonces o allabons" y no "aleshores", "chilá" y no "xisclar", "bussón" y no "bustia", "espill" y no "mirall", "serbici" y no "servei", "arropllegá" y no "recollir", "eufádia" y no "alfàbrega", "nabae" y no "rai", "firmá" y no "signar", "misto" y no "llumí", "segallosa" y no "boira", y unos miles de etc., etc., etc, ...

    ... y eso, sin incluir aquellos falsos castellanismos que casualmente también coinciden con el aragonés septentrional o con otras lenguas románicas ...

    ... o que sencilla y llanamente, se pueda uno saludar con una "bona besprae (tingue)" en vez de una "bona tarda (tingui).
    Rudyweiss ¿eres lingüista? me has dejado con la boca abierta de tus conocimientos... a no ser queseas de la zona, claro ... pero creo que no lo eres. je

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    Te envío un MP ...
    (¡¡¡CLINC!!! ¡¡¡CLINC!!! ¡¡¡CLINC!!!) ¡¡¡WARROSSSSS ... VAMOS A JUGAAAAAAR!!!





    ... LAS LENGUAS ENVIDIOSAS ... SEAN FRITAS (FRANÇOIS VILLON).

    LOS CATALUFOS Y PANCUZOS, SON COMO LOS HIJOS DE BERDOLÉ ... QUE A SU PRÓPIO PADRE PRETENDÍAN ENSEÑARLE A ENGENDRAR BEBÉS.

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    A vorem com se desarrolla açò en la pràctica.
    Pero de moment ya és un pas avant, mentres tant, els valencians...pareix que els pasos els peguem arrere.
    Fayostros Le gusta esto.
    I (L)

    No plores per una terra que lluita, lluita per una terra que plora!

    Che, quin goig, tenim un gran diccionari (valencià-català-castellà)!
    http://www.valenciafreedom.com/va/diccionari/inici.html

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    A vorem com se desarrolla açò en la pràctica.
    Pero de moment ya és un pas avant, mentres tant, els valencians...pareix que els pasos els peguem arrere.
    I no asoles per els politics...
    Llepolies Le gusta esto.

    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarán a sí mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

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    I no asoles per els politics...
    Si el problema no son els polítics, és esta societat que vota a eixos polítics, un poble que se deixa chafar a tots els nivells.
    I (L)

    No plores per una terra que lluita, lluita per una terra que plora!

    Che, quin goig, tenim un gran diccionari (valencià-català-castellà)!
    http://www.valenciafreedom.com/va/diccionari/inici.html

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