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    Reyes catalanes

    Tengo el trivial en el movil y una pregunta es que donde estan los reyes de cataluña y pone como respuesta que en el monasterio de quart.
    Que es esa invencion puesta ahi.
    Hay muchas preguntas como esa,seguro que lo ha hecho un catalan el trivial ese.
    Mallorquí Le gusta esto.
    SOMOS VALENCIANOS,NUNCA CATALANES.
    ODIO AL CATALANISMO.

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    Si el monasterio de quart lo han reformado en un frenopatico,esa es la respuesta correcta
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    Tengo el trivial en el movil y una pregunta es que donde estan los reyes de cataluña y pone como respuesta que en el monasterio de quart.
    Que es esa invencion puesta ahi.
    Hay muchas preguntas como esa,seguro que lo ha hecho un catalan el trivial ese.
    Yo creia que estaban en Mordor....
    adlerta y a Mallorquí Les gusta esto

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    El rei catala es el rei de bastos.
    Fa uns quants anys eixigue un trivial (que yo me'l vaig fer portar de Barcelona per a vore les barbaritas ). Puix si tot plenet de barbaritats.

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    Han perdut la vergonya que mai tingueren

    "El fin justifica los medios"

    Fer lo que siga (mentir, manipular, etc...) pa rentarli el cervell a tot lo mon, escomençant pels chiquets.

    Es lo normal en els regims nazistes i fascistes: nazionalcatalanisme

    Com ferli front: contra-propaganda anant en la vitat per davant. Davant de la vitat la mentira sempre pert. Per aixo els catalanistes volen acallar les veus que deixen en evidencia les seues mentires i manipulacions.

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    Jejej.

    Bien mirado, además de en ese lugar, también están en el Escorial. A fin de cuentas, los reyes de Cataluña, no son otros que los reyes de Aragón y España, y lo son tan de Cataluña como de Massarojos.

    ¿Donde están enterrados los reyes de Massarojos? En los monasterios de Poblet y Escorial entre otros sitios.

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    Pera "estar" primer se te que "ser" o siga "existir".
    Lo que hui s'enten com a Catalunya, en l'antiguetat se dia la Marca Hispanica que fon aon el rey franc colocà uns castells y als seus subdits pera que defengueren ixe territori del atac dels moros. En posterioritat ixe territori l'l permutá el rey franc Luis IX a Jaume I, pels que este tenia a l'atre costat dels pirineus. O siga que l'actual Catalunya may ha segut reyne. Primer depengue del reyne frances, en acabant del reyne d'Arago y en acant del reyne d'Espanya, per lo que'ls catalans no han tingut may reyxos

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    Ahora entiendo lo de los autobuses del pais vasco en la diada. Seguro que es porque al ser los reyes de Oros, Copas, Espadas y Bastos (cuyas estampitas las fabrica en Vitoria Heraclio Fournier) han querido ir a rendirles la obligada pleitesia. ¿ Seran estos los Reyes citados en principio......
    Mallorquí Le gusta esto.

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    no seran estos: LOS REYES DE LA RUMBA CATALANA

    una fototito jajajaja

    Última edición por Pepico_RV; 15/09/2012 a las 01:58
    El Mall Le gusta esto.

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    Mirad que dibujos animados les ponen a los niños catalanes para engañarlos y adoctrinarlos,este va del compormiso de Caspe,cuantas mentiras en tan pocos segundos,que si monarcas del casal de barcelona (a los reyes de la casa de aragon los llaman asi)aragoneses hablando en catalan,valencianos hablando en catalan,solo respetan a Fernando de antequera hablando en castellano


    Los demas capitulos no tienen desperdicio,son un atentado a la historia,menuda manipulacion,mentiras y mentiras una detras de otra.

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    pero que vidios mas manipulado y las voces no encajan con las bocas.

    ¿por que los valencianos llevan esa especie de barretina? ¿ y Mallorca con Cataluña?

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    Mirad que dibujos animados les ponen a los niños catalanes para engañarlos y adoctrinarlos,este va del compormiso de Caspe,cuantas mentiras en tan pocos segundos,que si monarcas del casal de barcelona (a los reyes de la casa de aragon los llaman asi)aragoneses hablando en catalan,valencianos hablando en catalan,solo respetan a Fernando de antequera hablando en castellano


    Los demas capitulos no tienen desperdicio,son un atentado a la historia,menuda manipulacion,mentiras y mentiras una detras de otra.
    Nótese además la manipulación subliminal. Cuando teatralizan el Compromiso de Caspe, todos hablan catalán, es decir hacen ver que en toda la Corona se hablaba catalán, para reforzar sus teorías. Se podría alegar que es una pelicula en catalán, pero poco antes Fernando de Antequera había hablado en castellano...

    Eso sin entrar en la tergiversación ante la tumba de Martín el Humano, donde uno de los figurantes dice que "muere el último rey de la casa de Barcelona, algo que no sucedía desde 'El Peludo' ". Vamos a ver, hasta el braguetazo del conde Ramonet, no había reyes aragoneses descendientes de catalanes, y luego, como es sabido, el apellido era 'de Aragón', no Barcelona, ni Girona, ni nada de nada, ya que en Aragón existía el 'casamiento en casa', en román paladino, que la Reina era Reina y su marido ná de ná más que principe consorte. Osea, que el hijo de Ramonet no era otra cosa que un Aragón más, CASA DE ARAGÓN, NO DE BARCELONA, QUE DESAPARECIÓ CON RAMONET BERENGUER.

    JODER QUE TROPA.

    Es decir, que es indudable el afán manipulador de la serie para hacer buenos pan catalanistas de los niños de hoy.

    Solo por esto, por el adoctrinamiento, la manipulación y el colonialismo hacia sus vecinos, Rajoy ya tendría que aplicar la constitución e intervenir Cataluña. No tiene huevos.

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    Pues si ves los otros capitulos flipas,que si Cervantes era catalan,que el Tirant lo blanch esta escrito en catalan,mas monarcas catalanes etc... la serie en si misma es todo un desproposito manipulador

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    Si algu vol tindre clar este tema i especialment el Compromis de Casp i les manipulacions que s'han fet des del mateix moment de las seua firma. Que llisga la magnifica cronica de Miquel Carbonell que publica el SOM del Grup d'Accio Valencianista en el seu nº de Setembre-Octubre 2012:




    AlS 600 ANYS DEL COMPROMIS DE CASP



    Els passats 9 y 10 de juny en el V encontre de les Entitats de l’Antiga Corona d’Arago C.E.A.C.A “ Els Tres Reynes” , mos juntarem en Casp, pera rememorant el Compromis que fa 600 anys s’acordà en dita poblacio, manifestar nostra voluntat de seguir mantenint nostres particularitats propies d’autoctonia, diferenciabilitat e independencia, en les comunitats d’Arago, Mallorca y Valencia que en aquell entonces eren reynes independents uns d’atres en Furs propits, Corts y Parlaments a l’igual que’l Condat de Barcelona en els seus Usages y Costums.

    En la Corona d’Arago, conformà pels reynes d’Arago, Mallorca, Valencia, condats como el de Barcelona, alguns ducats, senyorius; en fi, a monto de territorits; al faltar sinse descendencia el rey Marti l’Huma, se quedaren sense rey, produintse l’Interregne, que es l’espay de temps en que els reynes-estats o territorits depenents de la Corona, no tenien sobera.

    El Compromis fon la determinacio juridica de a quin dels distints aspirants a la Corona, li corresponia el dret de l’herencia dels distints reynes y territorits que la conformaven

    Situantmos de nou en l’actualitat, no mes arribar a Casp, s’incorporarem de ple a la conferencia que sobre “ La formacio d’Arago a traves de ses llengües” estava impartint el President d’Amics de Tamarit y vicepresident de F.A.C.A.O..

    A continuacio s’inaugurà oficialmente l’Encontre per les autoritats y seguidamente, tots junts, celebrarem el dinar de germandat.

    Per la vesprà, endespues de l’ elaboracio de conclusions pels representants de les entitats alli reunides, y escoltar la disertacio de nostre Josué Ferrer sobre : presentacio de webs, participarem de la taula redona de debat sobre “ L’antiga Corona d’Arago, llengües e identitats”.

    Dignes de resenyar foren les decidides e innovaores postures, tant pels ponents aragonessos com dels balears, de conseguir: en primer lloc, el reconeiximent oficial en ses respectius estatuts, de ses llengües: aragonesa y baleariques ( mallorqui, menorqui e ibicenc y en segon lloc, el de defendre l’incorporacio a l’escritura de ses respectives llengües, dels parlars autoctons conservats y ensenyats per sos pares y pobles corresponents, en contra d’ixe catala inventat que pretenen impondrelos, tant des de’ls poders politics y factics del pancatalanisme, com per els politics de ses respectives autonomies.

    Dels once ponents, sense menospreciar a cap d’ells, vullguera resaltar:
    Primer, a l’investigaor mallorqui Mikel Garau, que mos contà com creà l’Academia de Sa Llengo Balea y com ha conseguit introduir en els congressos internacionals de romanistica, l’incorporacio de la llengua balear.

    En segon lloc, a nostre investigaor Pep Guillen, que aconsellà als presents que no se fiaren dels politics y manco dels del P.P., als que tant als aragonessos com al balears els havien promes la recuperacio de ses llengües, comentantlos lo que mos passà als valencians, que a pesar de les multitudinaries manifestacions realisaes pel poble valencià a lo llarc del temps, els politics en general y els del P.P. en particular mos han traicionat sempre, enganyantmos en la creacio d’ixa Academia d’una llengua sense nom, que pactà Zaplana en Pujolini pera institucionalisar el catala baix lo nom de valencià.

    Per ultim, Teresa Puert, mos contà com en els congressos internacionals en els que participa, tira per terra els falsos arguments del pancatalanisme respecte a la llengua valenciana. Aprofitant que estavem en Casp proyectà la reproduccio d’una part de l’acta sobre el compromis, conservà en el bisbat de Sogorb, en la que se constatava que estava feta en llengua valenciana y ¿cóm els de sempre! , havien intentat passar per alt o suprimir lo de llengua valenciana, com han vingut fent a lo llarc del temps en multitut de documents

    El disapte se rematà presentant el I Corrector Ortografic de l’Aragones Oriental.

    Al sendema dumenge, endespues de la visita guià a la Colegiata de Sta. Maria del sigle XII aon se firmà el compromis y existix la reliquia de la Creu de Jesucrist, verem l’ermita, el bario migeval judeu y finalment escoltarem la conferencia que sobre el Compromis mos donà el paleograf Jose M. Arcal . Este es llimità a comentar lo transcrit en les actes, que de moment no havia vist en cap de llibre que parla sobre el tema y es el fet, de que les actes foren firmaes y escrites tant per part dels compromissaris catalans com dels valencians en llengua valenciana y per part dels compromissaris aragonesos en aragones, lo que demostra que en aquell entonces, les uniques llengües oficials reconegudes en la corona d’Arago y per tant en lo mon civilisat, eren aquelles en les que s’havien escrit y firmat les actes, o siga: el valenciá y l’aragones y que per tant, el catala no tenia la importancia juridica, politica ni cultural, que preten hui en dia, passats 600 anys, el nazi-onalisme pancatalaniste.



    Ha segut bonico apreciar en la semblança de nostres respectives llengües , les diferencies existents y es que l’espay del temps , la distancia entre els llocs y la falta d’intercomunicacio, mos ha dut a cada una d’estes comunitats, a mostrar nostres diferencies, nostres caracteristiques; en fi, nostra cultura y nostra forma de representarla en nostres respectives llengües, que siguent germanes, son diferents.


    MIQUEL CARBONELL ROIG
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    Despres de videos com el que mos ha pasat paco, tenim aço:


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