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  1. #1
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de aguila_roja
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    Enric Valor

    Tots sabem quin catalaniste interesat era este home.
    Pense que estem descuidant als “valencians” que en el seu moment se vengueren al catalanisme traicionant la seua sanc com es al cas d'Enric Valor. El meu proposit al aubrir este fil es de anar posant eixes badoqueries que va escriure este home en contra de la llengua valenciana al mateix temps que demostrar que fon un panca hasda la medula. Els catalanistes d’esta terra el tenen com una eminencia y no saben d’ell la mitat del cuento.

    Aprofitem per granar malea, de dins cap a fora.

    En VF hiá atres fils que parlen d’este personage en concret; vaig a anar penjant algunes cosetes. Vos agrairia que penjareu el que trobeu per ací y per atres foros o weps.
    ALQUERIA y a adlerta Les gusta esto
    Qui No Vullga Pols .......Que No Vaja a l'Era

  2. #2
    Varó de lo Regne
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    Es una bona idea. deuriem de agarrar la seua obra i anar denunciant u per u els desproposits del renegat Enric Valor.

    En llinees generals fon un etnocida. Hui en una prova de la perversio de nostre sistema educatiu se'ls obliga a nostres fills a estudiar la seua figura i obra com si d'un campeo de la llengua fora. I hasda cert punt ho es. Un campeo de la llengua catalana.
    Tituls de alguna de les seues obres son ya una demostracio de lo que dic: "millorem el llenguatge(sic)"
    Cuant el catalanisme presumix en algun punt es segur que la veritat esta a la part contraria de lo que diuen. Si a Valor el presenten com a llexicograf i recuperaor de paraules de les comarques valencianes. ¿a que venen totes eixes formes que no son propies nostre, sinos sols de catalunya?
    El titul de l'obra que he citat ades es representatiu de la mentalitat etnocida del filocatalaniste Enric Valor. Lo que parlen els valencians no es bo, necessita MILLORAR. I per ad ell, millor que la llengua valenciana es la catalana. Vejam atres tituls que ho demostren
    "Curso medio de gramática CATALANA referida especialmente al País Valenciano8sic)"

    O sea que de recuperador de la Lengua Valenciana, nada de nada. Un IMPOSTOR y un IMPOSITOR de léxico y gramática catalana.

    Atre titul que diu molt de l'antivalenciania del fulano:
    "Meravelles(sic) i picardies ". Ni el valencianissim "MARAVELLES" ni el castellà valencianisat "MARAVILLES". Pera un renegat es MILLOR com ho fan els catalans. Este Enric Valor fon un etnocida de la llengua i cultura valencianes. Yo pense que seria una victima de abusos infantils. Lo que el duria a renegar de les figures paterna i materna, per lo que li naixqué un sentiment d'autoodi i una voluntat de desfeta de lo que era el seu entorn.
    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

    FRONT A L'IMPERIALISME CATALÁ

    JOVENS LLIURES VALENCIANS

    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

    UNIXTE A MOSATROS

  3. #3
    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    Adlerta,lo més segur es que'l gandumbes ni conegué que la forma "meravella" es del llengadociá (meravelha) distint al valenciá -maravella que mosatros diem desde sempre;
    "maravella" (Desclot; Crónica,1285)
    "maravelles" (Roig,J: Llibre de les dones,1460)
    "gran maravella" (Roiç de Corella; Obres,1490)
    "tal maravella" (Siurana; Disputa de viudes,1561)
    "maravella" (Baldoví: La Donsayna,1844)
    "maravella" (Escrig; Dicc.,1851)
    "maravella" (DRACV,1997)
    ...
    O siga,antivalenciá en lluidea de panderola.
    Última edición por Lobivalentian; 03/11/2012 a las 14:16
    ALQUERIA, adlerta, aguila_roja y 1 más Les gusta esto.

  4. #4
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de Xavier
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    Enric Valor es un dels principals 'subnormalisadors' de nostra llengua. En les proves de la JQCV s´estudia els verps d´este element.
    adlerta y a ariant Les gusta esto

  5. #5
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de aguila_roja
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    Ahi esta el tema, en desprestigiar a este bovet catalaniste. Estudiar les payasaes que deya y mostrarlo com lo que era: "Un vividoret del cuento"

    He rescatat d'atre fil aixo, que te temps pero que esta be:

    Iniciado por kikemaria
    Enric Valor,en el año1986 fue nombrado Miembro de la Sección Filológica del Instituto de Estudios Catalanes, en1987 Premio de Honor de las Letras Catalanas por la entidad Òmnium Cultural de Barcelona, y en1993 premiado con la Cruz de San Jordi de la Generalidad de Cataluña.
    Las arremetidas catalanistas de 1934, como las protagonizadas en Alicante por Enric Valor (presume de "leer catalán desde los cuatro años, porque su padre estudió en Barcelona"), al no obtener contestación, animaron a iniciar el abordaje definitivo; el Reino de Valencia engordaría a Cataluña.
    Miles y miles de alumnos son coaccionados todos los años por maestros inmersores para que adquieran libros editados por la empresa del mecenas, como "La flexió verbal" de Enric Valor; obra que cuesta 1.500 pesetas -editada en papel corrientucho y sin fotografías- y va por la 22 edición (hagan, hagan cuentas, multipliquen por 20 ó 40.000 alumnos y verán la lluvia de oro que vivifica al victimista).
    EI librito dice a los niños, por ejemplo, que la forma verbal "pateix es preferible a patix, que no tiene tradición literaria" (p. . Qué raro, pues los cultos valencianos forales como Mossén Porcar escribían: "la necessitat que patix la Corona de Valencia" (Dietari, any 1624, f. 445); y "patixen" (f. 525).
    El negocio marcha. Toneladas de "La flexio verbal" en catalán esperan mutarse en millones, muchos millones, en el presente curso 98-99;
    Hem de intentar que eixa gent que es prepara per les proves de la JQCV y mes, veja estes cosetes. Intentar farcir este fil de tot lo que tenim y lo que podem conseguir pa tirar per terra al venutcia eixe.
    adlerta y a ariant Les gusta esto
    Qui No Vullga Pols .......Que No Vaja a l'Era

  6. #6
    Varó de lo Regne
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    Pera donar mes força al argument de Kikemaria posem una image coetanea de la cita que ell mos dona. Un text llegal.






    O siga que llegiria molt de catalá... pero de valenciá no tenia ni idea (o no la volia tindre)
    Lobivalentian y a aguila_roja Les gusta esto
    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

    FRONT A L'IMPERIALISME CATALÁ

    JOVENS LLIURES VALENCIANS

    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

    UNIXTE A MOSATROS

  7. #7
    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de DonChusep
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    Cita Iniciado por adlerta Ver mensaje
    Pera donar mes força al argument de Kikemaria posem una image coetanea de la cita que ell mos dona. Un text llegal.






    O siga que llegiria molt de catalá... pero de valenciá no tenia ni idea (o no la volia tindre)

    No puc vore les imagens, encara que copie la URL en un atra pestanya . Potser siga un fallo de imageshack, perque m'apareix una granota dins d'un cup de gel i un mensage que diu: "We are working on thawing this poor guy out, please come back soon".


    Editat: ya està solucionat
    Última edición por DonChusep; 04/11/2012 a las 11:54

  8. #8
    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    La flexio verbal
    En eixa gábula,resulta denigrant que aparega en temps composts el catalá "hagi" al costat del valenciá -haja.
    Al igual mos fa en la del pretérit imperfet de subjuntiu; que introduixca com "sinónima" les formes catalanes com els conegués,creixessis,creixéssiu...una verdadera vergonya.
    Es com si la RAE en atre supost,ficara les portugueses o les del chino...

    Y si no,lo del verp "canviar" una morfología artificial pera evitar pareguts en el castellá ya que en idioma valenciá es -cambiar (del lletí -cambiare)
    "cambiar" (Canals,fr.Antoni: Providencia,NCL.,102,c.1395)
    "cambiar" (Roig,J: Llibre de les dones,1460)
    "cambiar" (Escalante: Desde dalt del Micalet,1877)
    ...
    També cridaner que incloga la flexió del verp -eixir sinse palatalisar (isca,isqueu,etc)
    Pero preferixc que'm diga lo correcte Isabel de Villena;
    "aquella ixca" (Vita Christi,1497)
    El lliterat Joanot Martorell;
    "lo rey ixqué" (Tirant,1460)
    El cult Llombart;
    "ixquera" (Cabotes y calaveres,1877)
    O algún semanari d'época de mon yayo;
    "que ixca" (El Amic del poble,Alacant,1899)

    Y si seguixc,no pare hasta demá.
    Última edición por Lobivalentian; 03/11/2012 a las 14:15
    aguila_roja Le gusta esto.

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    Molt bo lobi, material de categoria per que els jovens puguen breguejar en els mestres; esperem mes aportaciones teues y de tots, que sempre son de gran utilitat en la nostra lucha.


    Cita Iniciado por DonChusep Ver mensaje
    No puc vore les imagens, encara que copie la URL en un atra pestanya . Potser siga un fallo de imageshack, perque m'apareix una granota dins d'un cup de gel i un mensage que diu: "We are working on thawing this poor guy out, please come back soon".
    Hasda este mati es veya la image sinse problemes; segur que adlerta pegara una miraeta a vore que ha pasat.

    Aprofite per posar les direccions d'atres fils d'aci sobre el "cara cacaua" com be deya rudy:

    Enric Valor, atre analfabet catalaniste

    Compromis solicita que se otorgue la Alta Distinción de la Generalitat a Enric Valor

    Mirad a lo que se dedica el Panca Ayuntamiento de VLC...
    Lobivalentian Le gusta esto.
    Qui No Vullga Pols .......Que No Vaja a l'Era

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