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En el Registre Civil se canvien els llinages del valencià al català

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  1. #1
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de 100iment
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    En el Registre Civil se canvien els llinages del valencià al català

    Valencia impide traducir los apellidos castellanos a diferencia de lo que denuncia el PP en Cataluña
    El Registro Civil permite regularizar la grafía correcta en valenciano, pero prohíbe cambiarse de López a Llopis

    PACO CERDÀ VALENCIA=panca La Comunitat Valenciana no permite valencianizar los apellidos castellanos (cambiar de López a Llopis o de Herrero a Ferrer) a diferencia de lo que ocurre en Cataluña, donde una instrucción de 1998 que permite catalanizar los apellidos se ha convertido en motivo de polémica de la campaña electoral. Dicha instrucción -fechada el 20 de octubre de 1998 y dirigida por el Govern de CiU al personal del Registro Civil catalán- ha sido divulgada por el PP de Alicia Sánchez-Camacho. La normativa catalana trasciende la mera corrección ortográfica y permite traducir apellidos castellanos o extranjeros al catalán con algunos ejemplos concretos: "Rubio por Ros, Escribano por Escrivà, Piedra por Pedra", el francés Boulanger por Forner o el árabe Haddad por Ferrer, según consta en aquel documento.
    En el caso valenciano, en cambio, sólo existen dos posibilidades de valencianización onomástica. Una persona puede cambiarse el nombre de pila: pasar de "Pedro" a "Pe?re" o de "Consuelo" a "Consol", por ejemplo. Es un proceso rápido y sencillo, avalado por el artículo 54 de la Ley del Registro Civil, para el que sólo se requiere presentar la solicitud correspondiente en el Registro Civil donde uno esté inscrito (y si no lo hay, en el juzgado de paz o en el ayuntamiento). Allí tienen un diccionario onomástico y realizan el cambio de forma automática.
    En el caso del apellido, la normativa es mucho más restrictiva: sólo se puede aspirar a la regularización ortográfica de un apellido valenciano mal escrito, y siempre que medie un informe lingüístico expedido por la Sección de Onomástica de la Acadèmia Valenciana de la Llengua. Los ejemplos que aporta la Aca?dèmia son claros: que Puchades cambie a Pujades, que el incorrecto Dolz se modifique por Dolç, que el castellanizado Monzó pase a ser Montsó, o que Alemañ adopte la grafía normativa de Alemany. Pero nunca un Pérez puede ser Pe?ris, ni un Caballero pasar a apellidarse Cavaller.
    Ninguna de las dos opciones valencianizadoras tiene éxito en la ciudad de Valencia. Fuentes del Registro Civil indicaron ayer que, en todo 2011, se registraron 55 nom?bres valencianizados. Hubo 9 casos de apellidos valencianos que se adecuaron a la normativa ortográfica actual de la lengua de Ausiàs March. En las comarcas valencianohablantes la tasa puede ser más elevada.

  2. #2
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    ¿Com li quedaria a PANKO CERDA el cambi de llinage?, ¿Vos imagineu?.

    Si fora en idioma valencià seria "PANKO PORCA" .

    En gerga cataluforra ya seria una atra cosa en molta menos gracia: "PANKO TRUJA"...

    Que Panko trie la opcio que vullga, yo me quede en el meu nom i llinages originals



    P.D. Per cert, este es l'enllaç de la noticia: Valencia impide traducir los apellidos castellanos a diferencia de lo que denuncia el PP en Cataluña - Levante-EMV

  3. #3
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de ratblau
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    home <<Panko Truja>> es molt bonico, sobre tot per a presentar noticies en el ABC hahahaha
    DonChusep Le gusta esto.
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


  4. #4
    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    que Puchades cambie a Pujades
    No es serio que l'AVL destruixca llinage que sempre fon en CH;

    Laborde; Itinerario descriptivo de las provincias de España,p.44 (1816)


    ¿Algú que vaja y els instruixca?
    Última edición por Lobivalentian; 19/11/2012 a las 20:11
    Xavier y a Mallorquí Les gusta esto

  5. #5
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de aguila_roja
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    ¿Eixe cambi es definitiu? Deu tindre marcha arrere ¿no? ¿Y eixos pobres chiquets que, per l'ignorancia dels seus pares, tenen un nom catalanufo y se'l volen posar valenciá de soca y arrail? ...........¿Els posaran impediments?
    Qui No Vullga Pols .......Que No Vaja a l'Era

  6. #6
    Varó de lo Regne
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    Estos de la AVL son una panda de psicopatas antivalencianos
    Xavier Le gusta esto.
    ¡GERMANS DE BREGA!

    FRONT A L'IMPERIALISME CATALÁ

    JOVENS LLIURES VALENCIANS

    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

    UNIXTE A MOSATROS

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    Senescal de lo Regne
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    El MARRANO que ha escrit eixe articul es un ignorant i un sarnacho catalaniste de cap a peus que gasta les mateixes troles i llenguage tendencios que gasten els catalanistes imperials rentaors de cervell de chiquets, pares i valencians en general.

    Cita Iniciado por MARRANO
    que el incorrecto Dolz se modifique por Dolç, que el castellanizado Monzó pase a ser Montsó, o que Alemañ adopte la grafía normativa de Alemany
    - Dir que "Dolz", un llinage d'orige aragones, es incorrecte, es com dir que "Jönsson", un llinage suec, es incorrecte perque porta la ö en dieresis. El llinage no es una paraula d'un vocabulari o diccionari, es una senya hereditaria que perfectament pot provindre d'una atra llengua o pais, la qual està al marge de tota gramatica normativa. Com a molt, pot cambiar per "transliteració", per eixemple un llinage arap escrit en alfabet arap s'ha de transliterar a l'alfabet llati, en base a la seua fonetica, en paisos a on no gasten, ni entenen eixe alfabet arap.

    - Diu que "Monzó" es una castellanisacio de "Montsó". ¿Este tio es tonto o tonto? La castellanisacio en tot cas seria "Monzón", no "Monzó", i sempre en el cas de estar parlant d'un llinage toponimic que té el seu orige en la localitat aragonesa de "Monzón/Montsó".
    ¿Tenim la seguritat de que tots els "Monzó" o aquells que vullguen cambiar de forma tenen com a orige esta poblacio aragonesa?¿Poden existir atres "Monzó" d'un atre orige diferent al "Montsó" aragones?¿Acas "Monzó" no es, mes aïna una "valencianisacio" i no una "castellanisacio" ("Monzón") de l'aragones "Montsó"? (Ricart Garcia Moya ya escrigué sobre el valencianisme "Mongó" - montanya de Denia - ara catalanisat com a "Montgó")¿Per qué hauriem de sustituir una forma, casi de segur "valencianisà", per una forma aragonesa?
    A lo millor resulta que pal MARRANO "valencianisar" significa escriureo tot en atra llengua menos en la valenciana.

    - Del llinage "Alemany" les provincies en el numero mes gran de portaors en Espanya son:
    "Murcia (732), Santa Cruz de Tenerife (440), Madrid (312), Barcelona (290), Navarra (246), Sevilla (134), Alicante (114), Valencia (112), así como Cádiz (76). "

    Qui tinga el llinage "Alemañ" haura de demostrar que prové d'una familia a on el llinage original era "Alemany" i no "Alemañ" ¿o acas tots els "Alemañ" d'Espanya tenen com a orige la forma "Alemany"?
    Llinages com "Alemañ", "Aragones", etc..., el poden dur moltissimes persones sense tindre la mes minima relacio familiar o genealogica entre ells. Son llinages toponimics - de procedencia geografica -. Dos persones - o mes -, sense cap relacio familiar, poden portar un mateix llinage toponimic nomes per ser originaris els seus antepassats respectius d'una mateixa nacio, regio o poble.
    Lobivalentian, aguila_roja y a Mallorquí Les gusta esto.

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    Conec un cas paregut,la presentadora dels informatius de Intereconomia,la valenciana Carmen Estañ.

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    Lo que afirma el impresentable de Paco Cerdá ES FALSO:

    La AVL del PP también propone catalanizar nuestros apellidos ~ Revista És Lo Que Som
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    Por cierto, yo conozco a un imbécil que se ha traducido el apellido a Gonçales, y firma como tal.
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    Ni haurá que espabilarse que si entren estos de Cumpromís y Bloc farán una netecha étnica.

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