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  1. #1
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    ¡Quin orage!

    Encara estava ploguent fa un rato... Ahir fon (gràcies MOSATROS) un dia espantós.

    ¿Baixareu al carrer per la vesprà? Podriem comentar anècdotes...

    Anaves pel carrer i tota la gent en el paraigües trencat... Yo tinguí la sort de que se´m doblà dos voltes, puguí tornar a doblar-ho de nou...
    I això que m´ho comprí en "los chinos"...

    Coneguí a un chaval que estava resguardant-se baix d´una cornisa (banyat de cap a peus). Segons me contà, tirà el seu paraigües a fer la ma. -"Es millor aixina"- digué.
    Si tenia que creuar una avinguda, tancaba el paraigües: preferia banyarme un poquet i mantindre-ho "viu"...

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    Última edición por POPEPO; 01/03/2013 a las 15:33

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    I yo pense: ¿No pot ploure en decembre, que és quan toca, en lloc d'ara, que mos venen les Falles?
    Mas, t'hem pillat, has sobornat al temps per a que mos ploga
    "Solo hay dos cosas infinitas: el universo, y la estupidez humana. Y de la primera no estoy tan seguro". Albert Einstein (1879-1955)

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    En el permis de POPEPO i sense voler "desviar" el fil, voldria apuntar certs aspectes llingüistics. En principi l'agradable sorpresa de trobar tant de passat simple: "tinguí, coneguí, comprà", (preterit perfecte) en conte del perifrastic, "vaig tindre, vaig coneixer, va comprar". El passat simple es una senya propia de la llengua valenciana que no hu es de la catalana, viva en la variant apichà i en la ilicitana (si algu sap a on més se gasta que hu diga).

    La forma que m'ha chocat ha segut "sigué" (fue). No me sona eixa forma, sempre ha escoltat "fon" (els catalanistes volen ficar "fou"). La RACV tambe dona la forma "fon" com de tercera persona del singular: "Ahir fon un dia espantos". Fullana tambe arreplega la forma "fon" i no "sigué" en la seua gramatica de 1915. Si algu gasta "sigué" mos podria aclarir còm l'ha depres i de qui l'ha escoltat.

    En el diccionari en llinea de la RACV Diccionari Ortogràfic de Valencià [Secció de Llengua i Lliteratura Valencianes] (mireu com no soc tan roïn, que els faig propaganda i tot), se poden trobar les conjugacions verbals. Primer s'ha de posar el verp en valencià (marcar nomes "valencià") i en acabant en el resultat s'ha de punchar damunt de "Flexio verbal".

    M'ha chocat que pa la primera persona del verp "ser" la RACV done "fon" tambe: "Yo fon mestre escòla dèu anys". Yo mai l'havia escoltat. Pa la primera persona d'eixe verp sempre ha dit la forma perifrastica "vaig ser". Fullana ademes de "fon" tambe dona "fuy" pa la primera del singular, lo qual me pareix mes logic tenint en conte que en atres verps la primera del singular acaba en : "aní, comprí, tinguí..." (yo no tinc manies si "fuy" coincidix en la forma castellana "fuí").

    Acabe en la forma "girar" que es com sempre ha escoltat dir "doblar": "m'has girat el braç i m'has fet molt de mal", "tira pac'avant dos carrers més i en acabant gires a ma dreta, travessant l'avinguda que trobaras enfront mateixa".
    Última edición por MOSATROS; 01/03/2013 a las 15:47
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    Ostres, sí, se m´havia colat...
    Crec que he escoltat això de "sigué" alguna volta, no recorde a on.

    ¡Corregit!

    Pero en lo del verp "doblar" crec que està be: una cosa és doblar i atra que es gire.
    De fet, ahir anava girant el paraigües per a que les varetes no es doblaren pel vent...



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    Coronel de lo Regne Avatar de Lobivalentian
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    Cita Iniciado por MOSATROS Ver mensaje
    En el permis de POPEPO i sense voler "desviar" el fil, voldria apuntar certs aspectes llingüistics. En principi l'agradable sorpresa de trobar tant de passat simple: "tinguí, coneguí, comprà", (preterit perfecte) en conte del perifrastic, "vaig tindre, vaig coneixer, va comprar". El passat simple es una senya propia de la llengua valenciana que no hu es de la catalana, viva en la variant apichà i en la ilicitana (si algu sap a on més se gasta que hu diga).
    Afegixc estes cites;
    "no coneguí" (Martorell,J. Tirant,cap.411,1460)
    "acabí...penchí" (Baldoví; La Donsayna,n° 2,1844)
    "te hu diguí en la tenda" (Escalante; La Chala,1871)
    "me despertí" (Cidón; L'Agüela,1907)
    Última edición por Lobivalentian; 01/03/2013 a las 16:09

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    Yo siguí
    Tu sigueres
    Ell sigue
    Son formes velarisaes del preterit perfecte d'indicatiu. Corrents en llengua valenciana en la zona ahon yo vixc.
    Lo mateix pasa en les formes del preterit imperfecte de subjuntiu
    Siguera
    Sigueres
    Siguera
    La RACV no les considera adecuaes en un registre formal
    Mallorquí Le gusta esto.
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    RESISTENCIA VALENCIANA

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    les formes del plural imagine tambe seran velarisaes ¿no?

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