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  1. #1
    Aspirant a Centenar Avatar de TITOLA71
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    Es que soc molt burro i vulc mes respostes

    Si l´atre dia me calfaba lo cap sobre per que "" NO HABLAN CATALAN EN CASTELL DE FERRO= GRANADA ), hui m´ocurrix lo mateix en l´escut de SALAMANCA.
    Que catala va deixar les cuatre barres de ARAGO en l´escut de eixa ciutat castellana?? totes les histories dihuen que va ser VELA SANCHEZ DE AYALA ( 1 º Señor de Ayala ) fill natural de SANCHO I d´Arago.

    Hi ha resposta catalanera?? tal vegada PASAPALABRA.

  2. #2
    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de ariant
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    ¿Tens clar que va ser precisament Vela Sánchez el que va tindre algo que vore en el escut de Salamanca? Sabras que es diu d'ell: "De Vela Sánchez se dice fue hijo ilegitimo de Ramiro I, rey de Aragón ó su hijo Sancho Ramírez y una hermana de Alfonso VI, de la Casa de los Condes de Barcelona." Si fora com tu dius, els catalans podrien aprofitar y dir molt be que tenia "sanc catalana" el que va deixar les cuatre barres en el anomenat escut, si es que es veritat que heu diuen "totes les histories" com tu afirmes.

    Per un atre costat la paraula ferro, com deus saber, es d'orige llati "ferrum" En Italia es diu ferro com en tantes atres parts de les nostres terres: Valencia, Galicia, Asturies...Tambe en portugués. En castella antic es dia "fierro". Aixo per no parlar de les paraules com testaferro, ferrocarril y moltes atres que res tenen que vore en el catalá.

    La parula Castell tambe es d'orige llati "castellum". En Italiá crec que es diu "castello" y ya saps com se diu en valenciá: "castell" A tot aixo... ¿Per qué es tendría que parlar precisament catalá en eixe poble de Granada? No crec que hi haja pera calfarse tan el cap.

    Un atra cosa que dius al final de no se quina historia titulá "sempre barsa"..."JOAN GAMPER (el seu nom de veritat, es HANS-MAX) d´orige jueu, naixcut en WINTERTHURN ( SUISSA )"... pera acabar diguent: "tot es pot adependre a vore si els Valencians en algo els copiem". M'imagine que als que deuriem copiar, seguns tu, es als catalans ¿no?... encara no he pogut enterame be per qué.
    Última edición por ariant; 20/04/2013 a las 03:07

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    En el escudo de Salamanca tradicionalmente aparece el cuartel de ARAGÓN (no de Cataluña) porque el noble que reconstruyó y repobló la ciudad fue Vela Sánchez de Ayala que según cuentan era hijo bastardo de Sancho Ramírez de ARAGÓN.

    "Hay además en el escudo de nuestra ciudad un puente,las cinco barras de Aragón,con orla de nueve cruces de plata en campo azul y dos cabezas de dragones,dividido en tres cuarteles y superado con corona ducal"
    B.Dorado; Historia de la ciudad de Salamanca,p.13 (1861)
    Última edición por Lobivalentian; 20/04/2013 a las 12:23
    adlerta, Hygdrasyl y a aguila_roja Les gusta esto.

  4. #4
    Cavaller Centenar Avatar de GUAITA71
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    Che. No donen idees que estos alarguen el mapa dels payasos catalans fins a Salamanca.
    volderk Le gusta esto.

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    Sargent Centenar Avatar de delenda cat
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    Segons la Guisquipedia referintse a castell de ferro diu lo siguient:

    Según Manuel Sanchis Guarner, Castell de Ferro proviene de la evolución mozárabe autóctona, que conserva arcaísmos como la no diptongación de la Ě latina.1 La pervivencia de estos arcaísmos, que se explica por la mayor fidelidad al latín del romance andalusí, se ha intentado justificar a veces, sin demasiado fundamento, por la influencia en la toponimia de emigrantes del norte llegados con posterioridad a la conquista cristiana. Este mismo fenómeno se produce en otros topónimos como Ferreira, y en hidrónimos como Poqueira, donde se ha creído ver semejanzas con el gallego.

    Se veu que el Guarner no va vore en valencia eixa evolució del mosarap, lo que fan els dinés.
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