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    Hilo de politica internacional

    Echaba de menos un hilo en el que podamos comentar y debatir sobre aspectos de la politica internacional,es por ello por lo que me he decidido abrir este hilo.
    Aqui podemos comentar todas las noticias de politica internacional que vayan apareciendo.Creo que cada vez que ocurre algo en el mundo,en lugar de abrir hilos nuevos,lo mejor seria ir comentandolo todo aqui.
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    General de lo Regne Avatar de paco1983
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    Mi primer tema en este hilo,por actualidad y proximidad,es el conflicto que se esta viviendo en Ucrania.
    En mi opinion,si Ucrania se pasa a occidente, no pasara entera. Crimea vuelve a Rusia y quizas tambien todo el territorio al este del Dnieper.Las acciones de Rusia,me han recordado esto:



    ¿que opinais vosotros de todo este conflicto?

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    Senyor de lo Regne Avatar de POPEPO
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    Buena iniciativa, germà.

    Yo creo que Ucrania es más que un país, es una pieza estratégica.
    Los rusos no regalarán ni un trozo. ¿Podemos imaginarnos las consecuencias de lo que ello supondría?

    Aunque, con los sionistas "metiendo mierda", si me permites la expresión, desde la ONU, a saber cuántos muertos más puede haber...

    Opino desde mi ignorancia en este conflicto. Lo he seguido más bien poco. Pero sigo pensando que ese territorio se quedará siendo ruso.

    EDITO: Dejo este interesantísimo hilo de forocoches donde tratan el tema desde el comienzo del lío: http://www.forocoches.com/foro/showthread.php?t=3558922

    Creo que de ahí se puede extraer mucha info.
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    Esto tiene toda la pinta de ser un conflicto entre Socialistas ...

    Comunistas pro-rusos vs. Nacionalsocialistas ucranianos ...

    ambos sistemas cada cual más execrable ... No obstante no hay que olvidar que los ucranianos, en la S.G.M., vieron a los nazis como unos libertadores con quienes no dudaron en colaborar a raíz del Genocidio perpetrado por los soviéticos, que en los años 30 no dudaron en matar de hambre a más ucranianos que los nazis durante todo su período y a todas sus víctimas juntas (Holodomor).

    Creo que una vez expuestas estas dos líneas, cada cual sabrá sacar sus própias conclusiones, y más, cuando no debemos de olvidar que hay un par de territorios culturalmente rusos en Ucrania, lo que aún añade más leña al conflicto ...

    En resumen: "Helter Skelter".
    Última edición por Rudyweiss; 06/05/2014 a las 01:05
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    General de lo Regne Avatar de paco1983
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    Resumen de la rueda de prensa de Putin:

    - El gobierno de Turchynov es ilegítimo, y ha alcanzado el poder a través de un golpe de estado. Yanukovich sigue siendo el presidente legítimo de Ucrania, si bien su futuro político es nulo.

    - No piensa enviar tropas a Ucrania ahora mismo, si bien lo considera un último recurso.

    - Masas de neonazis antisemitas deambulan por Kiev, lo cual causa temor a la población de Ucrania oriental y Rusia se reserva el derecho de protegerlos si éstos se lo requieren, aunque esto sería una solución extrema.

    - En general, Rusia se reserva el derecho de usar cualquier medio a su disposición en Ucrania en caso de que la población rusa se vea amenazada.

    - La caída de la bolsa rusa fue debida a la intervención de la reserva federal americana, no tiene nada que ver con los hechos de Ucrania.

    - Como Yanukovich les pidió ayuda, Rusia se ve legitimada desde el punto de vista de la legislación internacional. Sus intereses en Ucrania son humanitarios.

    - Si se emiten sanciones contra Rusia por estos hechos el daño será mútuo.

    - No hay en Kiev en estos momentos un presidente legítimo con el que negociar.

    - Rusia no piensa anexionarse Crimea, pero piensa que ésta debería poder ejercer su derecho de auto determinación.

    - Las tropas que ocupan Crimea en estos momentos no son tropas rusas sino tropas locales de auto defensa.

    - Yanukovich le afirmó a Putin que él nunca dió órdenes a la policía de disparar contra los manifestantes de Maidan. Los francotiradores eran agentes provocadores de la oposición.

    - Las relaciones con Ucrania no se podrán reestablecer hasta la elección de un nuevo presidente. En la situación actual Rusia no reconocería unas elecciones en Ucrania debido al régimen de terror imperante.

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    Molt bona iniciativa Paco.
    Ucrania està en completa actualitat com dius.
    El problema es l'economic com tot. Rusia no vol deixar de tindre el control maritim de la Peninsula de Crimea, una península repoblada per rusos...
    Cada vegada el conflicte s'internacionalisa mes, vorem com acaba, pero pense que no se pot permetre que Rusia es faça en el control.
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    General de lo Regne Avatar de paco1983
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    «Somos aliados serios y vamos a cumplir con las sanciones que se impongan, pero nos puede suponer un sacrificio»
    Espaa acatar las sanciones a Rusia que decida la UE, aunque supongan un sacrificio - ABC.es

    Mal rollo,España no puede permitirse el lujo de perder mas dinero

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    Es més que probable que, com a conseqüencia del conflicte, pujen els preus energetics y es desestabilise la economia, repercutint especialment en Espanya per ser un pais altament dependent.

    Yo crec que s'aplicarà una politica de "paños calientes" pera que la cosa no s'en ixca de control. Pero fa por que Putin tinga un "subidón" com el d'Arturet y mos faça anar a tots com a cagallo per sequia.

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    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    Yo pienso que esto es otra maniobra de los servicios de inteligencia.

    Primero, revueltas.
    Segundo, derrocar al líder pro-ruso(tenía el 49% de los votos).
    Tercero, poner al pro-europeo(solo tenía el 13% de los votos). (¿Y lo "bueno" que sería que la UE controlara el gas ucraniano?)

    Y, cuarto, ¿tensión con Rusia y crear un miedo a la población en general, europeos, rusos, americanos...?

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    Buena iniciativa, germà.

    Yo creo que Ucrania es más que un país, es una pieza estratégica.
    Los rusos no regalarán ni un trozo. ¿Podemos imaginarnos las consecuencias de lo que ello supondría?

    Aunque, con los sionistas "metiendo mierda", si me permites la expresión, desde la ONU, a saber cuántos muertos más puede haber...

    Opino desde mi ignorancia en este conflicto. Lo he seguido más bien poco. Pero sigo pensando que ese territorio se quedará siendo ruso.

    EDITO: Dejo este interesantísimo hilo de forocoches donde tratan el tema desde el comienzo del lío: menuda se esta liando en ucrania ahora mismo - ForoCoches

    Creo que de ahí se puede extraer mucha info.
    Lo que he dicho yo resumido en una sola palabra de POPEPO.

    Veig que saps per a on van els tirs.
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    Senyor de lo Regne Avatar de POPEPO
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    Quina alegria llegir-te de nou per aci, companyo Valencianot.

    La veritat es que sense la figura del sionisme, no es compren molt be tot este "conflicte".

    A vorem cóm acaba tot aço.

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    Crec que m'he perdut. Tampoc he seguit el tema ucranià més allà de lo mínim pero no entenc que té que vore el sionisme en eixe conflicte. ¿Algú pot explicar-m'ho?
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    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    Quina alegria llegir-te de nou per aci, companyo Valencianot.

    La veritat es que sense la figura del sionisme, no es compren molt be tot este "conflicte".

    A vorem cóm acaba tot aço.

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    Jeje Vaja que sí. Fea molt de temps que no em passava per aci... Estic més perdut que l'or de Moscu. jajaja

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    Crec que m'he perdut. Tampoc he seguit el tema ucranià més allà de lo mínim pero no entenc que té que vore el sionisme en eixe conflicte. ¿Algú pot explicar-m'ho?
    Primer n'hi ha que saber diferenciar els judeus dels sionistes. Els verdaders judeus no volen guerra ni res per l'estil, en canvi els sionistes ho volen a tota costa per als fins que vullguen ells i atre tipo de practiques.

    Aci te mostre un video d'un judeu queixant-se dels sionistes:



    Ells estan sempre darrere d'estes coses utilisant les agencies d'espionage de tot lo món, com puguen ser la CIA, MI6, MI5, el Mossad, etc...
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    General de lo Regne Avatar de paco1983
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    Parece que pronto tendremos otra republica integrada en Rusia Activistas prorrusos declaran la República independiente de Donetsk | Internacional | EL PAÍS

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    Me parece estupendo: Si las fronteras están mal puestas, hay que rectificarlas ...
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    Ucrania tiene la desgracia de estar entre Rusia y la U.E.Su politica exterior debe ser de buenas relaciones con los dos si desea mantener su integridad territorial.

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