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    Ya tengo una opinión, estoy contra ESTE partido ecuatoriano

    Nos cuenta el Foro de Intereconomía, el primer diario en pdf de España, que en Valencia se ha creado una agrupación de inmigrantes para presentarse a las elecciones.

    Nuevamente todo fantástico, me parece muy bien que participen nuestros vecinos, estoy a favor de ello, pero pasemos a analizar algunos aspectos a tener en cuenta.

    "Los latinoamericanos crean un partido que podría ser la llave para controlar Valencia



    La capital de Turia puede convertirse en la avanzadilla de una serie de municipios españoles controlados por extranjeros, bien por que sean llave para formar gobierno con otros partidos o bien porque su alta concentración en muchos municipios iguale o supere a la población autóctona, lo que les daría el control de esos ayuntamientos."

    En Valencia se ha creado un partido formado exclusivamente por inmigrantes latinoamericanos. Se llama ‘Movimiento por el Cambio’ y aspira a presentar candidatura en las próximas elecciones de mayo a través de una agrupación electoral que ya está avalada por 5.000 firmantes inscritos en el censo electoral. Esta formación se define ‘de izquierdas e independiente en todos los aspectos del sistema que nos explota económicamente, que nos reprime policialmente y que nos trata como seres inferiores’.

    Además, entre sus objetivos figura ‘la participación política en las elecciones Generales y autonómicas de los extranjeros’, es decir, poder votar y ser votados a cargo público. Además, Movimiento por el Cambio ha hecho un llamamiento a las fuerzas de izquierdade la capital valenciana para ‘conseguir un programa conjunto para arrinconar a la derecha excluyente’. Asímismo, este partido pretende que se introduzcan cambios legales en lo que define como una ‘eliminación de obstáculos jurídicos en la equiparación plena de derechos’ como ‘obtención de una vivienda digna, acceso a empleo público así como a becas y ayudas’."



    ¿"Formado exclusivamente"? No lo entiendo, y si yo quiero ¿que pasa que por ser español no puedo participar en un partido constituido en españa, con las leyes españolas, con vocación de gestionar instituciones españolas?

    ¿"Independiente en todos los aspectos del sistema que nos explota económicamente, que nos reprime policialmente y que nos trata como seres inferiores’"? Nuevamente me pierdo, ¿les explota económicamente? ¡por favor que lo denuncien!, en España no es legal que alguien les pague menos por ser de otro país,raza, credo,... ahora si les parecen mal los sueldos eso es otra cosa, a los españoles también. ¿Les reprime políticamente? pero si se van a presentar a las elecciones, ¿cómo les reprime políticamente? ¿Podemos los españoles en su país participar como ustede lo va a hacer?¿No nos acusarian de neocolonialismo verdad?. ¿"Les trata como seres inferiores" dicen? Esto no puede decirlo un partido político serio. Tienen ventajas en la atención sanitaria, en las ayudas sociales, las insitituciones españolas están volcadas con ustedes, sus hijos están escolarizados, hay programas de ayuda e inserción específicos,...

    Sigamos. ¿conseguir un programa conjunto para arrinconar a la derecha excluyente’? lo siento no. Con el tal Luppi ya fué suficiente. Alguien les puede explicar a estos señores, que en este país, no se excluye a nadie por tener unas u otras ideas políticas, que encajen dentro de nuestra constitución. ¿Que vamos a tener el Tinell inmigrante? ¿Por favor , alguien puede aportar un poco de sensatez a esa colla de amigos metidos a políticos?.

    ¿Que pasaría si los españoles montaramos un partido con esas premisas que ustedes ponen pero a la inversa? ¿Seríamos racistas?

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Creo que partidos asi,con esas ideas lo unico que pueden conseguir son brotes de xenofobia,deben intregarse,no formar sus propios partidos excluyendo a los españoles,estan en un pais que no es el suyo...y en vez de integrarse quieren imponer sus ideas...veo un futuro muy negro en ese aspecto...

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    Pues eso mismo digo yo. Me parece crear guetos políticos, es decir justo lo contrario de los que hay que hacer.

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    Cavaller Centenar Avatar de kikemaria
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    Pienso lo mismo, de hecho esta reflexion la deje en otro post.

    Vamos a ver tambien he leido que esta asociacion de ecuatorianos quieren crear este nuevo partido y presentarse a las proximas elecciones para poder dar alternativa a la alcaldia de Valencia, de hecho su lema "Movimiento por el Cambio",lo dice todo, pretende tener dialogos sostenidos con la izquierda y plantar cara a la derecha. Y pregunto yo, con los votos que pudiesen recoger de tanto inmigrante, y siendo de izquierdas, no podrian meterse tambien en coaliccion con los kklanistas de verds, eu, bloc,etc y darnos un golpe ,que pudiera afectar a los valencianistas?.
    Pensemos
    <div style=\'text-align:center\'>\"VALENCIANS, DEFENGAM NOSTRA TERRA
    CONTRA LLADRES, BOCHINS I TIRANS
    AJUNTEM-NOS, QUE YA ARRIBAT L´HORA
    QUE SOM DIGNES DE SER VALENCIANS \"</div>

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    No des ideas. Que los pancas les ponen una banderita y les da igual, solo tienen que decir AMB i SORTIDA.

    El otro día publicaba que en el Pais Vasco inmigrantes sudamericanos van de compras con el "carnet vasco" de los etarras y si no les cobran, se van sin comprar ofendidos. Fijo que era el uruguayo.

    Como alguno lea a Sabino Arana se cae de culo.

    -----

    No fuera coñas. A mi me parece bien que se presenten, pero no sería más sencillo entrar en un partido político normal que hacer uno solo para ellos,¿ no es eso crear guetos?

  6. #6
    Cavaller Centenar
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    Esta España mia, esta España tuya, Esta España nuestra...
    <a href=\'http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5952/dibujopp3.png\' target=_blank>VIXCA VALÉNCIA LLIURE!!!</a><img src=\'http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5952/dibujopp3.png\'>

  7. #7
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    como digo yo cuando salgo los domingos con mis amigos por mi barrio,los extranjeros parecemos nosotros

  8. #8
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    lo que te que fer esta gent es integrarse primer en la societat i segont ens els partits politics espanyols segon els seus ideals politics .
    No plores per una terra que lluita, LLuita per una terra que plora

  9. #9
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    No se por que pero cada vez soy más ""ORDENADO""

  10. #10
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    Me direis que soy racista, pero no lo soy, y de serlo soy menos que ellos.

    Las leyes son para cumplirse, pero hay leyes que van EN CONTRA de los Españoles, con esto quiero decir:
    ¡ A SANTO DE QUE TIENEN QUE VOTAR ESTA GENTE?????????

    Yo entiendo que si los emigrantes, lleven en España un MINIMO de 5 años,
    y TIENEN LA INTENCION, de quedarse mas tiempo, o para siempre, VEO COJONUDO QUE VOTEN, de lo contrario, eso derecho solo nos pertenece a los Españoles.
    Yo lo veo así. Todo lo demas serán problemas para nosotros.
    Y estamos en nuestra casa ( o por lo menos eso pensamos)

  11. #11
    Mestre de lo Regne Avatar de Edetanorum
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    yo paso de contestar por q diria alguna barbaridad (la cual se la tienen bien merecida)

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    Yo tb mejor digo lo que pienso no me vaya a inculpar de algo el Pumpido ese..

  13. #13
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Esta noticia le sienta a un nacionalista blanco como una patada en los cojones. No si se venia venir, maldita sea la negligencia y la democracia. Prefiero morir de pie luchando por mi raza que en la cama. Fuera todos YA

  14. #14
    Creuat de lo Regne
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    XD Serrania, to ispirao he! xD Encara k yo diria...

    ''Esta España mia, esta España tuya, Esta ex-España ex-nuestra... '' xD

  15. #15
    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    ¿Vosatros penseu que algun espanyol va a votar ad ixe partit? Home, sempre n'hi haurá algu que'l vote perque "hay gente pa tó".

    Pero, a lo que vaig, ¿penseu qu'este partit pot fer "mal"(me referixc a llevar vots)?
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

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