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EL "GRUP CULTURAL ILICITA" PREMIA AL PSPV

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Tema: EL "GRUP CULTURAL ILICITA" PREMIA AL PSPV

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    EL "GRUP CULTURAL ILICITA" PREMIA AL PSPV

    Segons noticia apareguda en www.elpalleter.com , enguany el "Grup cultural Ilicita Tonico Sansano" que presidix R. Sogorb, fara entrega de un dels premis "palmes dorades", a l'Ajuntament d'Elig, governat pel pspv.

    http://www.elpalleter.com/actualitat.../vh270207.html

    Al respecte s'ha escrit un articul en la mateixa uep, que podem comentar si vos pareix, diu aixina:



    Els premis valencianistes no es donen a catalanistes


    Jaume de la Serra

    A raïl de la noticia apareguda en "Valéncia Hui" respecte a l'historic premi valencianiste "Palmes Dorades" que el "Grup Cultural Ilicita Tonico Sansano" (GCI) li ha otorgat enguany "al poble i a l'ajuntament d'Elig" me venen al cap una serie d'assunts.

    El primer de tots es que l'ajuntament d'Elig, desde fa una patracolà d'anys està siguent governat en majoria absoluta pels catalanistes del PSPV (PSOE). No es gens diferent la postura de submissio al pancatalanisme ideologic que mante el govern municipal del PSPV ilicità, encapçalat a lo llarc de molts anys pel socialiste Diego Macia, de la llinia pancatalanista "oficial" del PSPV autonomic.

    Ya estem acostumats a les baixaes de pantalons de Joan Ignaci Pla (i demes corifeus socialistes) davant de les exigencies del nacionalcatalanisme neo-colonialiste i anti-valencià (substitucio de la llengua Valenciana per la catalana, derogacio del mes que necessari transvas d'aigua de l'Ebre, etc...); per desgracia tambe els socialistes d'Elig ballen al mateix compas catalaniste i anti-valencià i diuen "si, bwana" a tot lo que els aplega, via PSPV autonomic, del nort dels (ficticis) "països catalans".

    En idea de que s'entenga un poquet millor lo que estic dient fare referencia al "Reglament de normalitzacio lingüistica per al municipi d'Elx i el seu ajuntament" (sic) [BOP: 29/05/1997], llei feta i aprovà pels socialistes ilicitans en 1997, siguent alcalde el socialiste Diego Macia, (el mateix que, com alcalde, representava a l'ajuntament d'Elig el passat any 2006). Una

    llei aon els socialistes validen i donen carta de naturalea a: "l'àmbit dels territoris de parla catalana", eufemisme baix del qual volen amagar l'anti-historic, inventat i imperialiste proyecte dels "països catalans" (tambe conegut com "Catalunya Gran (sic)") en el que en tota la desvergonya del mon tracten d'anexionar al sempre independent Reine de Valencia (Elig
    inclos).

    REGLAMENT DE NORMALITZACIÓ LINGÜÍSTICA PER AL MUNICIPI D'ELX I EL SEU
    AJUNTAMENT

    Data publicació BOP: 29/05/97
    ..
    Article 14é
    ..
    2) En el cas que es produïren els efectes fora de l'àmbit dels territoris de parla catalana, [els escrits i les comunicacions] seran redactats en castellà...

    Per supost, i conforme al caracter catalaniste/catalanisant del PSPV d'Elig, eixe reglament ha segut redactat usant lexic catala estrany a la llengua Valenciana general, despreciant a l'idioma Valencià propi dels ilicitans (tal i com ocorre en els demes escrits que la corporacio municipal ilicitana publica i que, enganyosament, tracta de "vendre" com a "valencià cult,

    formal o ben parlat"). Com per eixemple: "Defensar, tasca, aquest, amb, veure, converteix, article, tothom, estableix, dues, desenvolupament, altre, compte, obtenir, hom, dinamitzador, produeixen, perjudici, ensenyament, alhora, recerca, mitjans, utillatge, rètols, butlletins, posseeix, produïsca, serveis, vehicles..."

    Dit lo dit, i sabut lo sabut, no mos pareix gens adequat que l'emblematic i historic premi valencianiste de les "Palmes Dorades" d'enguany vaja a parar a les mans de la corporacio municipal socialista - i catalanista - d'Elig i manco encara en base a una "Dama d'Elig" que han portat "de visita" temporal (per motius electoralistes) i de la que no han tingut la valentia de reivindicar, reclamar i exigir la seua estancia permanent en Elig, la terra valenciana a la que llegitimament perteneix.

    El premi, en tot cas, deuria ser otorgat en exclusivitat al poble ilicità, un poble orgullos que defen les seues arraïls i mante viva, en moltes dificultats, la seua llengua materna Valenciana (dificultats agravaes per la desllealtat d'un govern municipal catalaniste que vol canviar l'autoctona llengua Valenciana d'Elig per una forastera llengua catalana que els ilicitans valenciaparlants no reconeixen com a propia).

    Els consensos i la moderacio es poden entendre si es fan entre les diferents sensibilitats valencianistes; assunt molt distint a ferli el caldo gros als catalanistes (per molt ajuntament que siguen) d'aon res bo pot eixir, nomes clavarse perillosament pel cami de la claudicacio i la perdua de valors valencianistes.


    ¿Que opineu?
    Si soc fill de la terra Valenciana...¿com renegar de ma mare? (Anfos Ramon)

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    no es just este atac ni al Grup Ilicita en general ni a Rico Sogorb en particular.

    Rico esta fent MOLT pel valencianisme en un puesto tan complicat com es ELIG. Crec que a estes altures ningu pot dudar dels seus ideals, esforc o dedicacio a la causa valencianista.

    estic d'acort en casi tots els comentaris que apareixen en elpalleter, pero en este tema, crec que se li esta fent molt de mal al valencianisme i a Rico en particular.

    qui vullga vore en el premi, un premi als socialistes catalanistes, crec que s'equivoca de pleno.

    per atacar als companyers de lluita valencianista ya estan els pancatalanistes, peperos i demes colla com per a que ara, un sector del valencianisme se li tire com a llops.

    El valencianisme li tindria que estar agrait a Rico el treball que fa, tan llunt del Cap i Casal. Si en algo no s'esta d'acort, millor te calles, perque l'unic que fas es dividir al valencianisme marcant com a enemic a gent que no es gens sospitosa.

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    Baix la meua opinio, ningu ataca al Grup Ilicita, ni a Rico, si no que s'informa de que esta entitat fara entrega d'una "palma dorada" a l'ajuntament d'Elig governat pel catalaniste pspv i aço no es una forma de vore-ho, es una realitat.

    No dubte personalment dels ideals valencianistes de l'amic Rico, pero no els comprenc, per aixo he obert este fil, no mes per a comentar i coneixer les opinions dels usuaris de Valenciafreedom.

    Respecte la decisio de l'entitat pero no la compartixc.

    I si en algo no estic d'acort ho dire, sempre, perque no m'agenolle davant de ningu, i molt manco ningu te la potestat per a dir-me o sugerir-me que me calle. I si per donar una opinio caiguem en la demagogia de sempre, la de la divisio, estem aviats.
    Si soc fill de la terra Valenciana...¿com renegar de ma mare? (Anfos Ramon)

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    L'Ajuntament d'Elig es una de les corporacions més manifesta i descaradament pancatalaniste de tot lo regne.
    La Dama d'Elig no domés va vindrer per l'apoyo de l'ajuntament sino també per la colaboració TOTAL de la Generalitat Valenciana.
    Deuriem de reconeixer eixe gran treball també del govern valenciá que va fer grans esforços per a portala.
    Un aplaudiment meu per a la Generalitat Valenciana.

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    yo no li he dit a ningu que es callara ni molt manco que no done la seua opinio.

    mira quina diferencia: per defendre a un valencianista a mi se me tanca un fil d'opinio als vint minuts.

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    yo no solc recorre a la demagogia per a defendre les meues opinions. Crec que ningu me pot acusar de dividir el valencianisme.

    ultimament no entenc res de lo que pasa per aci, che.
    Vinga va, primer Alex Esteve, abans Boro Vendrell, ara Rico Sogorb... che ¿pero no hi han ya prou catalanistes per atacar que nos tenim que barallar entre nosatros?

    No compartixc el premi que han donat, pero a tres mesos d'eleccions, no crec que siga bo criticar a una entitat valencianista (per aixo crec que es un erro apoyar tambe a un partit catalanista donant-li un premi).

    yo no he acusat de res a ningu. molt manco m'he agenollat davant de ningu. en la vida li he dit a ningu que es callara i mot manco li he dit que no exprese la seua opinio. Si per aixo he fet us de la demagogia... apaga y vamonos

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    Copie del teu primer post:

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    El valencianisme li tindria que estar agrait a Rico el treball que fa, tan llunt del Cap i Casal. Si en algo no s'esta d'acort, millor te calles, perque l'unic que fas es dividir al valencianisme marcant com a enemic a gent que no es gens sospitosa.
    Anem a vore si s'aclarim, que yo no m'invente les coses...
    Si soc fill de la terra Valenciana...¿com renegar de ma mare? (Anfos Ramon)

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    No compartixc el premi que han donat, pero a tres mesos d'eleccions, no crec que siga bo criticar a una entitat valencianista (per aixo crec que es un erro apoyar tambe a un partit catalanista donant-li un premi).
    Home, no es que siga bo criticar a una entitat Valencianista abans d'eleccions, pero si otorga un premi a un partit catalanista, es susceptible de que siga criticada, i en molta rao. Ells sabran lo que han fet i perque.

    Es com si dema valenciafreedom premia a eliseu climent. ¿te quedaries igual? ¿ho criticaries? anem a ser coherents, per Deu.
    Si soc fill de la terra Valenciana...¿com renegar de ma mare? (Anfos Ramon)

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    No conozco mucho al grup cultural ilicita.(espero conocerlo pronto)
    Pero pienso que las administraciones ahi que cambiarlas desde dentro.
    igual que los catalanistas se han metido en todos lados, Los grupos valencianistas deberian hacer lo mismo.
    Aunque a veces tengan que hacer la rosca a quien no lo merece.
    Os puedo decir que al darle el premio al ayuntamiento esto a salido publicado en todos sitios y a sido una gran publicidad para el valencianismo.

    ES POLITICA DURA Y PURA (Y MUY BIEN QUE ME PARECE)

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    al dir aixo de "millor te calles" no me referia a tu, era i es una forma impersonal, com si dius: puix si no t'agrada, no l'agarres / si no vols no vas / etz..

    ¿com me pots comparar a Eliseu Climent en Rico Sogorb? per a mi Rico esta en el mateix barco. si apareix un articul en elpalleter com el de hui, se li fa mal a una entitat valencianista. Yo de ACPV i Eliseu Climent pense criticar hasda el nom que li fiquen al seu gos ¡¡¡perque per a mi es l'enemic i no pot fer res be¡¡¡¡

    Tan sols dic que no estic d'acort en l'articul de elpalleter.com de hui, i he espossat els motius.

    I repetixc, la ultima part del mensage, agarrala de forma impersonal, NO te faig callar, COSA QUE A MI SI QUE M'HAN FET.

    A lo millor m'he explicat mal, que no dic que no, pero l'articul es injust, eixa es la idea que vullc expondre

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    de veres, no volia dir-te que te callares a tu, parlava en general.

    si ho entens aixina, perdona perque no era el concepte que volia expondre, he estat torpe en la manera d'expresar-me.

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    Gracies per l'aclaracio, ho he malinterpretat pel sentit de com ho has escrit. Disculpa'm.

    En l'atre cas no compare a ningu en eliseu, simplement pose un eixemple generic sense cap intencio comparativa i en tot cas dins del context compare a Rico en valenciafreedom, no s'equivoquem.

    Conec a Rico i repetixc que no dubte del seu valencianisme, pero no compartixc este homenage ni tampoc comprenc el perque se fa.

    L'articul del palleter baix el meu punt de vista, no es injust, si dema una entitat Valencianista"X" dona un premi a l'ajuntament de Valencia indirectament, sabent el catalanisme que n'hi ha dins d'ell...no se, em donaria que pensar, simplement pel fet de que l'otorga una entitat Valencianista.
    Si soc fill de la terra Valenciana...¿com renegar de ma mare? (Anfos Ramon)

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    Se bloquea el tema como siempre para evitar enfrentamientos INUTILES.
    Si hay que pedir explicaciones a alguien, se le piden en persona. No sera este foro el que divida al valencianismo.


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