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Tema: Tema de portada i el defensor del poble

  1. #1
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    Tema de portada i el defensor del poble

    Nomes entrar a la web veig la noticia en portada (perque en l'interfaç en valencià continua la manifestacio antiterrorista ). Que voleu que vos diga, ya se que molts sou de ofrendar nuevas glorias a españa i tal, pero no cregueu que el castellà ya te els seus mijos propis com per a defendre's per ells mateix? Hem d'anar mosatros els valencians a salvar el castella de catalunya? a mi me la bufa prou lo que passe en catalunya sobre tot les baralletes mediatiques entre madrit i barcelona. ¿Que ha dit o a fet el sr. Mugica sobre la llengua valenciana? ¿acas ha defes alguna volta als valencians o la nostra cultura? ¿acas no sap l'avassallament catala que patim? ¿li fem un escrit? Aixo si, te por a que el castella desaparega de catalunya. Pobret. Pobrets castellans. A lo millor desapareix la seua llengua. Per favor. Ya estem mosatros prou fotuts en tota la maror catalanista i en la absoluta castellanisacio del pp per a que mosatros damunt tingam que fer-los costat. Crec que deuriem dedicarse a promoure lo nostre que ya ho tenim prou mal, gracies entre atres, als castellans. Per a mi, i per respecte a les zones castellano-parlants de valencia (no per atra cosa), els dos deuen ser igual de oficials. No me val una llengua de primera divisio (el castella) i una atra de segon (el valencia). O tots frares o tots canonges.

  2. #2
    Cavaller Centenar
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    Puix sí. Facen lo que facen els catalufos, el castellà no va a desapareixer de Catalunya , i ademés esta notícia no és rellevant per al valencianisme.

  3. #3
    Mestre de lo Regne Avatar de Edetanorum
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    Valencia, la joya de España
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    avore, nose si yo visc en un atre planeta o es q no em llegit el mateix comentari...

    el q yo veig es q a tota Espanya es veu gracies a esta noticia q el catalanisme es un imperi marxiste q vol convertir en catala tot lo q el rodeje, en esta noticia no veig una baralla entre el castella i el catala, veig una denuncia al catala, i aço en una web anticatalanista es el q compta

    vosatros voreu... yo la trobe molt interesant i q te molta rao, en la constitucio es diu q ningu espanyol pot estar per damunt de un atre, i aço es lo q fan els catalanistes en els castellanoparlants, açi a Valencia la lluita es un atra, es la de reconeixer al Valencia com lo q es, no te res a vore en la baralla catalanista, aixina q no compareu

  4. #4
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    20 feb, 07
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    Valencia, España
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    Está bien que lo denuncie porque con el nuevo estatuto, si tu o yo vamos a vivir a Cataluña tendremos que aprender catalán, y ésto no me parece bien.

    Si Cataluña es España con el español basta.

    Además en Cataluña los niños tienen que estudiar a la fuerza en catalán. Aquí en cambio, los padres pueden escoger, o sea que no se discrimina.

  5. #5
    Cavaller Centenar
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    vale, perfecte..... envieu vosatros noticies.... aixina tindrem més varietat i tots contents
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  6. #6
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    Cita Iniciado por witser
    Está bien que lo denuncie porque con el nuevo estatuto, si tu o yo vamos a vivir a Cataluña tendremos que aprender catalán, y ésto no me parece bien.

    Si Cataluña es España con el español basta.
    Además en Cataluña los niños tienen que estudiar a la fuerza en catalán. Aquí en cambio, los padres pueden escoger, o sea que no se discrimina.
    A vore si ho entenc, ¿m'estas diguent que aci en Valencia en el castella n'hi ha prou? ¿estas diguent que lo unic que tu vols es que se parle castella i que eliminaries totes les llengues minoritaries minoritaries de espanya?

  7. #7
    Cavaller Centenar
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    10 jun, 06
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    campanar
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    no, t'esta diguent que es un dret constitucional poder triar entre les llengües oficials..... encara que el PP fique en el nou estatut que la llengua que es parla aci es el valencià (que ells diuen català)...... i per tant unica llengua oficial.... i aixo es mentira
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  8. #8
    Centenar de la Ploma
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    Cita Iniciado por campanero
    no, t'esta diguent que es un dret constitucional poder triar entre les llengües oficials..... encara que el PP fique en el nou estatut que la llengua que es parla aci es el valencià (que ells diuen català)...... i per tant unica llengua oficial.... i aixo es mentira
    No t'has llegit l'articul complet. La llei organica 1/2006 de 10 d'abril per la que se reforma l'estatut d'autonomia, en son articul 5 diu ben clar:

    "1. La lengua propia de la Comunitat Valenciana es el valenciano.

    2. El idioma valenciano es el oficial en la Comunitat Valenciana, al igual que lo es el castellano, que es el idioma oficial del Estado. Todos tienen derecho a conocerlos y a usarlos y a recibir la enseñanza del, y en, idioma valenciano.

    3. La Generalitat garantizará el uso normal y oficial de las dos lenguas, y adoptará las medidas necesarias para asegurar su conocimiento."

    Pero campanero, el forero witser ha dit abans que "si cataluña es españa con el español basta". Vullc que me diga simplement que opina ell que se deuria parlar en el regne de valencia.

  9. #9
    Cavaller Centenar
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    10 jun, 06
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    vale, ya entenc la pregunta.

    si, en eixe aspecte yo crec que es tindria que garantisar el dret a les dos llengües...

    en quant a lo del Estatut..... sense comentaris... perque tambe diu lo de la llengua compartida en atres territoris... i la doble denominacio....etc...
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  10. #10
    Aspirant a Centenar
    Fecha de ingreso
    20 feb, 07
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    Valencia, España
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    Por supuesto no digo que el valenciano no sea oficial ni se se elimine. Éso sería simplemente una atrocidad. Es que ni se me pasa por la cabeza.

    Lo que digo es que estoy de acuerdo con el Defensor del Pueblo en que el catalán no debe ser una lengua obligada. Él critica que el Estatuto catalán obliga a todo español que viva en Cataluña a saber catalán.

    En cambio, el Estatuto valenciano es tolerante y permite a los hablantes escoger que lengua hablar o aprender en el sistema educativo. Simplemente ésto. Ánimos al Defensor.

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    Centenar de la Ploma
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    10 feb, 06
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    Catarroja
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    Cita Iniciado por witser
    Por supuesto no digo que el valenciano no sea oficial ni se se elimine. Éso sería simplemente una atrocidad. Es que ni se me pasa por la cabeza.

    Lo que digo es que estoy de acuerdo con el Defensor del Pueblo en que el catalán no debe ser una lengua obligada. Él critica que el Estatuto catalán obliga a todo español que viva en Cataluña a saber catalán.

    En cambio, el Estatuto valenciano es tolerante y permite a los hablantes escoger que lengua hablar o aprender en el sistema educativo. Simplemente ésto. Ánimos al Defensor.
    Ok, witser, aclarit el tema

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