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  1. #1
    Sargent Centenar
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    ni la propia palabra de los autores les sirve!

    Diarios catalanes atacan a Valéncia hui por defender el valenciano
    27.06.07 | 02:00. Archivado en Politica
    J.Ferrer(vh).- La caverna pancatalanista vuelve a rebuznar contra la lengua valenciana. En esta ocasión, los diarios digitales catalanistas E-noticies y Diario Ibérico se rasgan las vestiduras por un artículo publicado en Valéncia hui que trataba de un curso de verano en la Universidad de Alicante sobre literatura valenciana medieval que será impartido por profesores de Filología Catalana.

    En dicho artículo, dijimos que “si les preguntáramos a Joanot Martorell o Ausias March en qué lengua escribían, contestarían que en valenciano”. Tanto E-noticies como Diario Ibérico se han hecho eco de la noticia, pero el último ha ido más lejos y le ha dedicado un editorial al tema.


    Esta noticia ha sentado muy mal a la prensa catalanista. Tanto es así que en Diario Ibérico afirman en el editorial: “No deja de ser una suposición. Pero en cualquier caso, aunque no lo fuera, sería irrelevante”. Así pues, la prensa catalanista considera “irrelevante” que Joanot Martorell firmara de su propio puño y letra que él escribia “en valenciano” pero no en catalán. Diario Ibérico parece saber mejor que el propio autor de la obra, en que idioma se escribió la novela de caballerías ‘Tirant lo Blanch’.


    “Así que no es necesario suponer lo que dirían al respecto Joanot Martorell o Ausiàs Marc (sic). Es irrelevante. Absolutamente irrelevante. Porque no estamos ante una opinión ni ante una cuestión de voluntarismo. Estamos ante una realidad: la lengua valenciana no existe, es el catalán. Esto es la unidad lingüística. Guste o no”, afirma el periódico anexionista.


    Y añade:"El pueblo de la Com. Valenciana tiene sus propias caracteristicas culturales, políticas, ideológicas y de todo tipo, pero una realidad palmaria que habla en catalán".

    Puede que ésa sea la opinión de Diario Ibérico pero no la del pueblo valenciano. Sefún el CIS de 2004, el 64'4% de los valencianos considera que el valenciano "es una lengua diferente y diferenciada del catalán", por tan sólo el 29'9% que cree que el valenciano es la misma lengua que el catalan.


    JOANOT MARTORELLrologo de Tirant lo Blanch"Lo llibre del valeros e strenu cavaller Tirant lo Blanch,Princep e cesar del Imperi grech de Cotestinoble.Lo cual fon tradut no solament de lengua anglesa en portoguesa,Mas encara, de potoguesa en vulgar lengua valenciana perço de la nacio don yo so natural se puxa alegrar e molt auidar"

    en ningun momento nombra la lengua catalana, sino la valenciana.

    De Ausias March en el siglo XV se hicieron tres ediciones (1543,1545,1560) de sus obras en barcelona y las tres llevan un grueso listado de "mots obscurs".Ademas, en 1555, se imprento una edicion en castellano por Joan de Resa en la que se incluye un "diccionario VALENCIANO castellano"

    Martorell y March afirmaron escribir en lngua valenciana, y ni ningun clasico del Siglo de Oro admitio jamas escribir catalan, o que valenciano y catalan fuera la misma lengua. Esta es la realidad historica que , por incomoda,Diario Iberico tilda de "irrelevante"


    ¿Que hace falta para que se nos reconozca nuestra lengua?
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  2. #2
    Senescal de lo Regne
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    Esto pasa por que en Catalunya censuran todo lo que ponga "lengua catalana". Es inútil buscar un libro del Tirant lo BlancH(con H) en el que aparezca esa referencia. Aparece suprimida en todos los libros que he visto, y los diccionarios de chino, árabe, vasco, gallego, hindú, latín, español, griego, y por supuesto catalán etc. los que querais, pero de valenciano, ni uno. La literatura valenciana como tal no exista más allá del Ebro en las tiendas.

  3. #3
    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    Caigué Valencia TeVe, esperem que no caiga també Valéncia Hui.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

  4. #4
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    " Ni al propia palabras de los ..."

    ¿Que esperabáis? Es público y notorio que Martorell, Ausias, Isabel de Villena, Arnau, ... son unos "incultes blaveros" Y Menendez Pidal, Madariaga, Pi i Margall, Azorín y el mismísimo Cervantesm, unos fachorros, unos "feixistes" vividores del régimen de Franco, otra cosa es Fuster, que era jefe de la Falange, pero solo para disimular, vamos como Cebrían, Polanco, los padres de De la Vega, de Bono,... y Maragall, el pobre Maragall era un perseguido que trabajaba a la fuerza para el régimen.

  5. #5
    Cavaller Centenar
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    No fan cas perque no els interesa fer cas.

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    19 abr, 06
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    La Cabaña de Grizzly Adams (Aragón - Gondwana)
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    El problema estriba en que están muertos desde hace siglos y se aprovechan de que no se pueden defender ...

    Aaaaayyyyy, si existiesen los fantasmas ....

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de RV-VCF
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    no fan cas!!!vixca valencia!!!

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    La Cabaña de Grizzly Adams (Aragón - Gondwana)
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    Cita Iniciado por Rudyweiss
    El problema estriba en que están muertos desde hace siglos y se aprovechan de que no se pueden defender ...

    Aaaaayyyyy, si existiesen los fantasmas ....
    ¿Que no harían caso? ¡Y que los fantasmas les toquen la gaita las 24 horas del día!

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Tampoco es que se pueda esperar más de la Universidad de Alicante.

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    Centenar de la Ploma Avatar de Murta
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    Cita Iniciado por Rudyweiss
    Cita Iniciado por Rudyweiss
    El problema estriba en que están muertos desde hace siglos y se aprovechan de que no se pueden defender ...

    Aaaaayyyyy, si existiesen los fantasmas ....
    ¿Que no harían caso? ¡Y que los fantasmas les toquen la gaita las 24 horas del día!

    Ni mas ni menos durante las 24Horas apoyo la propuesta
    Libertad significa responsabilidad. Por eso la mayoría la teme

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    19 abr, 06
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    La Cabaña de Grizzly Adams (Aragón - Gondwana)
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    Ya puedes empezar a hacer espiritismo y a invocar ...

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    Centenar de la Ploma
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    Estos siempre van a decir lo mismo, pase lo que pase, en fin, si les ha jodido, pues eso que se

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