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Decàlec presentat per la RACV a l'lAVL

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    Decàlec presentat per la RACV a l'lAVL

    Decàlec presentat per la RACV a l'lAVL
    2 de juny de 2004




    La Real Acadèmia de Cultura Valenciana, fundació pública, que des de 1915 ve treballant per la llengua i la cultura valencianes, davant de l'invitació oficial feta per l'AVL el 25/05/2004, per a mantindre una reunió a on informar ad esta Real Acadèmia dels seus treballs sobre el valencià, i vistes les seues actuacions, com ara l'acort del 25-3-2002, pel qual s'aprovà el referent normatiu oficial del valencià, vol expressar la seua postura en els següents punts:

    1.- Considerem l'AVL una institució fortament politisada i en una gran dependència política que li resta l'independència i la pluralitat necessària que ha de tindre una institució acadèmica per a poder treballar científicament.

    2.- Recordem que en el nomenament dels 21 acadèmics no s'han seguit els requisits marcats per la pròpia llei de creació de l'AVL, ya que alguns d'ells no són experts en valencià ni tenen una acreditada competència científica ni acadèmica en esta llengua, ni han destacat en les lletres o ensenyança en matèria llingüística, ni tenen producció reconeguda en valencià.

    3.- També considerem irregular el nomenament que s'ha fet dels 21 acadèmics, ya que segons la llei de creació de l'AVL no s'ha fet “segons criteris d'evaluació objectiva” sino seguint uns criteris estrictament polítics.

    4.- No considerem que la nostra sensibilitat o postulats llingüístics de valencianitat i autoctonia de la llengua valenciana estiguen suficientment representats en el sí de l'AVL en garanties per a poder influir de manera eficaç en les propostes finals.

    5.- És inacceptable que l'AVL qüestione el nom de la llengua valenciana quan una Llei Orgànica de consens i norma bàsica de convivència com és l'Estatut d'Autonomia li dona el nom oficial de “idioma valencià”, denominació que arreplega, junt a la de “llengua valenciana” la Llei d'Us i Ensenyança del Valencià de 1983, denominació esta avalada per la tradició històrica valenciana que mai utilisa l'AVL.

    6.- Exigim un debat sobre ortografia valenciana entre les normes ortogràfiques del Puig i les Bases de 1932 i que s'adopte l'ortografia que més s'adapte al valencià, a l'hora que denunciem una manipulació tendenciosa de les originals bases del 32, a on no s'arreplega el dígraf -tz- en la terminació – isar , s'accepten formes com ab o lo i certs usos de la ch que hui l'AVL ignora.

    7.- Nos reafirmem en el contingut del “ Manifest dels ciutadans i ciutadanes sobre la llengua valenciana ”, firmat per les principals entitats i editorials valencianistes, presentat al Govern Valencià i a l'AVL el 30-3-2004 i exigim que les característiques llingüístiques genuïnes valencianes que en ell s'arrepleguen siguen alçades a la categoria de norma per l'AVL si es vol conseguir un consens i una acceptació de l'AVL per part del valencianisme cultural.

    8.- No podem acceptar que el debat sobre el valencià es reduïxca a una simple negociació o mercadeig pel qual es fan oficials unes quantes paraules valencianes junt al cabal lèxic català. La llengua valenciana és molt més que un lèxic diferent i es fa necessari reconéixer i fer norma la seua morfologia nominal i verbal, la seua fonètica i la seua sintàxis que és lo que realment caracterisa al valencià.

    9.- És inacceptable que l'AVL faça del valencià una dialecte del català per mig de la fòrmula dels doblets o opcions a on s'oferix generalment primer la forma catalana i després la valenciana. Açò no sols dialectalisa al valencià sino que confon i dificulta el seu aprenentage i procés de normativisació i normalisació, en un intent absurt d'introduir i fer oficials les formes catalanes en territori valencià.

    10.- És inadmissible que l'AVL calle davant dels constants atacs que rep l'idioma valencià a nivell autonòmic, estatal i internacional, mostrant una falta de criteri, d'operativitat o lo que és pijor de desacort intern, prova de que no és una via vàlida per al consens que tant necessitem pel be de la recuperació, dignificació i difusió del valencià.

    Valéncia, 2 de juny de 2004
    Pirata_Azul_71 membre de les Joventuts del GAV

  2. #2
    Creuat de lo Regne
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    ¡¡ VIXCA LA R.A.C.V !!

    L'unics que treballen per amor a la terra, no per la pasta gansa que guanyen els traidors de l'AVLLc.
    <img src=\'http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/7956/nelolu0.gif\'>
    <img src=\'http://www.puntval.org/img/puntval468.gif\'>

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    Sargent Centenar
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    Menos mal que encara queda gent valenta, pero una pregunta, d'aon heu has tret,que està escrit en valencià normalisat???

  4. #4
    Cavaller Centenar
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    si senyor!

    4 coses ben dites!
    <img src=\'http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/9822/retpofr3og8.jpg\'><a href=\'http://www.valenciafreedom.com/web/modules.php?name=Videos\' target=_blank><img src=\'http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/7457/dibujo3iv3.jpg\'></a>

  5. #5
    Senescal de lo Regne Avatar de ratblau
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    si 4 coses ben dites, pero el 4 de juny de 2004, crec que la RACV deuria ixir més al sol, demostrar més que el valencià no te res que vore en el català, y tamé crec que mosatros tindriem que ser els que li donem l'espenteta definitiva, y els ajudem a fer que arriven a tota la gent.
    En temps d'engany Universal, dir la veritat es convertix en un acte Revolucionari.

    ALEDUA


  6. #6
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    l'he tret de la uep de la RACV, entitat en la que no compatixc els criteris ortografics, pero que sempre ha lluitat per nostra terra i mai dixare d'apoyar.

    Vixca la Patria Valenciana

    P.D.: Un abraç Sendoh
    Pirata_Azul_71 membre de les Joventuts del GAV

  7. #7
    Mestre de lo Regne
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    ¡ VIXCA LA R.A.C.V !

  8. #8
    Cavaller Centenar Avatar de kikemaria
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    No sé, yo veig massa acatalanats a estos de la RACV. M'agrá mes la normativa que gasta nostre partit Coalición valenciana. Ya va denunsiar en son dia Sentandreu que la RACV s'estava acatalanant a marches forsaes.

    No está escrit en valensiá subnormalisat de l'AVLl, está escrit en valensiá subnormalisat de la RACV. Si no heu sabeu la RACV fa temps va dixar de donar apoyo a les normes del Puig i va crear una normativa nova pareixcuda a la de l'Instituto de Estudios Catalanes.
    pero que dius, tu?
    <div style=\'text-align:center\'>\"VALENCIANS, DEFENGAM NOSTRA TERRA
    CONTRA LLADRES, BOCHINS I TIRANS
    AJUNTEM-NOS, QUE YA ARRIBAT L´HORA
    QUE SOM DIGNES DE SER VALENCIANS \"</div>

  9. #9
    Prior de lo Regne
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    Vaya, ¿se podrán decir más tonterías en un momento?...chico, si te quieres hacer pasar por valencianista, conozco niños de 7 años q lo harían mejor q tú....

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    I dic açò perque desprès de llegir els posts d´atres fils que ha escrit "el meu amic de dalt", ale, vos deixe uns perles d´ell:

    ah, per cert, en un post donava a entendre q es un tio, i se fica q es tia, chico, no te carregues tant els porros, que ya no saps ni lo q eres...ale panca, açi te deixe algunes de les teues perles:

    -A vore cuan iá un partit en les Baleares que defengue les llengües mallorquina, ibisenca, menorquina, formenterana i cabrereña, perque no olbiden que cada llengua en les Baleares té seua propia llengua.

    -La llengua valensiana no se perdrá si els valensians no acatalanats la parlem dia a dia entre moatros. En l'escola veig normal que s'anseñe el castellá perque es mes important i se parla en tot España. Mai s'había anseñat el valenciá en els coleches i el valenciá ha aguantat hasta hui. Ara s'anseña catalán i castellá en els coleches, pero la llengua valensiana autentica seguix parlantse en tot lo Reine aon sempre s'había parlat. No nesesitem qu'el valenciá s'anseñe en les escoles perque existixca. Ara, lo que no trobe normal es que s'anseñe catalán cuan no s'anseña valenciá.

    -Lo que no antenc es que si la llengua de tots els españols es la castellana perque tenen que voler fer programasió en llengües rechionals, i lo que menos antenc es que al damunt ignoren la milenaria llengua valensiana que es anterior al dialecte catalán bastardo.

    - Tenim qu'estar a l'acecho. Ya se veu per ahí que la paella es catalana, que el rat-penat es catalán, que l'Albufera i la barraca son catalanes, etc.... Els panques heu van dient per tot lo mon que visiten i editen a montó de llivres que diuen que totes les coses de nostre Reine son catalanes. Hasta la lluna de Valensia en la lluna de Cagaluña.

  10. #10
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
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    Mai havia llegit tantes burrades juntes... Les uniques normes valides son les d´El Puig.

    Per favor, no pot ser que el VALENCIANISME estiga tant dividit... Una normativa, per favor.
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

  11. #11
    Cavaller Centenar
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    Cita Iniciado por Reinovlc
    Mira chic, si ara resulta que dones tu els carnés de valensianitat, pos molt be. Yo se lo que soc y soc valensianista i defenc tot lo que defenc nostra terra valenciana mai catalana.

    Vull la llengua valensiana de la RACV pero sinse acatalanisar. Fora la cagalista AVLL i l'IEC.

    Calma, mariana és una gran valencianista i tal volta t'haja jusgat prematurament; pero ací tots estem en el mateix barco i no pots entrar en la uep ya dividint i criticant. Això és lo que vol dirte, i suponc que ella sospitaba de tú per ta actitut.

  12. #12
    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Cita Iniciado por Reinovlc
    I yo no estic dient que Mariana no siga valensianista, segur que heu es i molt, pero yo tamé heu soc i lo de que hi ha tres normes del puig no meu heu inventat yo. Yo no se qui te la culpa, si la RACV per acatalanisar les normes del Puig, si les normes del Puig autentiques o les normes del Puig utilisaes per Coalicio com a protesta de que les normes del Puig antigues i de la RACV pareixen catala perque escriuen "ho" i no "heu" i "m'ho" i no "meu". Ixa es la veritat, astem dividits.
    No te quieres enterar, que te quiero de verdad, ... Bueno, bromas aparte: tengo la ligerilla impresión de que, sobre las normas usadas por la R.A.C.V., no tienes la menor idea.
    Y a juzgar por tu forma de hablar valenciano, debo confesar que debes de ser una purista; pero esto tampoco es malo ya que ayuda a enriquecer las lenguas; yo también soy muy purista con el aragonés, lo mismo que un amigo que tengo en Huesca (concretamente el Zaborro, o sus zaragozanos coleguillas Zerrigüeltaires).
    Pero insisto: LA R.A.C.V.no ha catalanizado nada.

  13. #13
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    Ben dit; un 10 per la RACV

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