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La veritat sobre Carod

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  1. #1
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    La veritat sobre Carod

    He buscat per el foro y pareix que encara ningu ha posat res d'aço que m'he trobat per internet. Si estic enganyat vos demane disculpes. Ahi va:

    El verdadero Carod Rovira

    Es muy posible que muchos de vosotros a estas alturas hayáis oído o leído que Josep Lluis Carod-Rovira en realidad se llama José Luís Pérez Díez. Unos lo creerán y otros no. Las fuentes parecen bien fundadas y diversas y todas afirman la veracidad de la noticia.

    Lo cierto es que el mismo Carod NO lo ha desmentido y el resto de detalles (aparte de su nombre) coincide totalmente con la biografía oficial del sujeto, por lo tanto sería de esperar que la noticia fuera totalmente verídica. Sabemos que efectivamente su padre era aragonés... por lo tanto sería normal que Carod Rovira tuviera un apellido castellano, y evidentemente le sería más fácil subir en las filas de su partido con apellidos totalmente catalanes.

    Para aquellos interesados, os hago relación de toda la información sobre el sujeto:

    Su padre fue el número de la guardia civil JOSÉ LUIS PEREZ ALMECIJA y su madre la señora ELVIRA DIEZ ROVIRA.

    Son naturales de la provincia de Zaragoza, pero sus familiares se establecieron por todos los rincones de España donde la saga militar de los PEREZ ALMECIJA se remonta a varias generaciones.

    El lugar de nacimiento de los hijos, JOSÉ LUIS PEREZ DÍEZ (hoy conocido como JOSEP-LLUIS CAROD-ROVIRA) y de JUAN DE DIOS PEREZ DIEZ (hoy conocido como APEL.LES CAROD-ROVIRA)es desconocido pero es probable que ambos nacieran en alguna casa cuartel de la provincia de Teruel.

    Lo que es cierto es que desde muy pequeños, los Pérez Diez se establecieron en Cambrils, donde estaba destinado el padre guardia civil en tareas de vigilancia y protección de Tarragona. Los hijos estudiaron y crecieron en un ambiente españolista de les casernes - del francés caserne- las casas cuartel vamos, pero pronto entran a tomar contacto con esos ambientes independentistas, gracias a lo que JOSE PEREZ DIEZ entra en el Seminario de Tarragona para ser formado sacerdote.

    JOSE LUIS abandona la sotana, comienza a estudiar filología catalana, y empieza a salir con una nieta de Rovira i Virgili (el que dijo que hay una raza catalana) y se afilia al PSAN (Partido Socialista de Liberación Nacional, al BEAN y después a los Nacionalistes d'Esquerra). Es entonces cuando decide cambiar de apellidos.

    EL ROVIRA es para hacer honor al abuelo de su prometida y CAROD para honrar la única lejana gota de sangre catalana que corren en algúna esquina de su madre. Esta frase no es fácil de traducir, digamos que se pone ROVIRA y CAROD, pero vamos su madre se llamaba Carod igual que usted lector procede de Adán y Eva, es decir de casualidad y muy lejano.

    Su padre está retirado y se dedica a pescar en Tarragona, el otro hermano, Juan de Dios, se puso como nombre de pila APEL.LES (en honor al poeta y escritor) - Observación: ya ven que el cambio de nombre es contagioso en esta familia, qué mal tuvieron que pasarlo de pequeños-

    Y aquí finalizo de hablar de estos tipos, hay muchas más cosas que sé, pero quizás otro día...

    RECUERDEN:

    JOSÉ LUIS PEREZ ALMECIJA + ELVIRA DIEZ ROVIRA es igual a

    José Luis Pérez Diéz Almecija Rovira.

    Cuando una región necesita héroes es que algo va mal. Cuando además uno se avergüenza de sus padres es que va peor.

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    Aspirant a Centenar
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    No me extrañaría nada, este tío es capaz de todo.

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    Centenar de la Ploma
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    Juas! Tu tamé has llegit els comentaris del 20 minuts eh volderk? xD

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    Sargent Centenar Avatar de volderk
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    Cita Iniciado por blaveroSempre
    Juas! Tu tamé has llegit els comentaris del 20 minuts eh volderk? xD

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    Mestre de lo Regne
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    Menudo elemento

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    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    ¿Pero és que encara no sabeu que el nom de "Josep Lluis Carod-Rovira" és el nom artistic d'ell?
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

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    Tinent de lo Regne
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    al meu chiquet no el toqueu que encara no l'hi ha crescut la xufeta deixeu-li temps collons!

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Re: La veritat sobre Carod

    Cita Iniciado por volderk
    JOSÉ LUIS PEREZ ALMECIJA + ELVIRA DIEZ ROVIRA es igual a José Luis Pérez Diéz Almecija Rovira.
    Voy a hacer un rápido análisis a éstos apellidos:

    a) Pérez: Este apellido es hébreo; estoy casi seguro que concretamente de "Peres" y por tanto, sefardí.

    b) Almecija: Este apellido es clarísimamente castellano, o tal vez, andaluz; o sea: éste apellido, de aragonés "ni zarrapita ni branca ni meya ni pon".

    c) Díez: Aquí nos encontramos ante otro apellido claramente castellano, y por tanto, al igual que Almecija, de aragonés, nada de nada.

    d) Rovira: Este apellido sí que podría ser catalán.

    Por tanto, y resumiendo, aunque los padres de "Roviretge" hayan nacido en Zaragoza, sus apellidos son poco o nada aragoneses (1 hebreo, 2 castellanos y 1 catalán).

    En cuanto a Carod, el apellido que tomó en adopción, en cambio de catalán no tiene nada de nada: si no es aragonés (ya que las palabras acabadas en aragonés normalizado en -t, o en diminutivo o despectivo, existen Comarcas donde esa -t final, se convierte en -d o en -r; por ejemplo "Chiquet", coexiste con "Chiqued" y con "Chiquer"), entonces nos encontraríamos con un apellido típico BALEAR.

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    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
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    Tú sí que sabes Rudyweiss.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
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    Ay José Luis...

    Él hubiera querido seguir la tradición familiar de pertenecer a la Benemérita, pero lo desecharon por bajito y estrecho de pecho...

    Luego quiso hacerse cureta, pero cuando empezó a perseguir a los compañeros de seminario en calzones y a perdirles en las duchas que le recogieran la pastilla de jabón, acabaron por largarlo también, después de excomulgarlo, claro...

    Excomulgado y rechazado por el honroso cuerpo de la Guardia Civil, estudió oposiciones para la Yeneralitat Cagalana y se dedicó a la mala vida, al juntarse con chusma poco recomendable de los ambientes underground y pseudointelectuales de la izquierda, y así acabó el pobre: en el lado oscuro del republicanismo federalista, del imperialismo falangista naZionalsocialista y finalmente en ERC, cubo de basura que recoge a todos los desechos de estos movimientos caducos, anacrónicos, retrógrados, utopistas e impracticables...

    CAROD, ERES UN GILIPOLLAS Y ESTÁS DE FRENOPÁTICO, TIO!

    En este país, decir tonterías es gratis... a este HDP encima le pagan... y para más inri con dinero público...

    CATALANES, ABRID LOS OJOS... NO ALIMENTÉIS A ESTE SUBNORMAL PROFUNDO Y MENINGÍTICO!

    (De los ex-valencianos de ERPV ya ni hablo... sólo decir que el tuerto es el rey en el país de los ciegos... si Carod es lo que es, los que le siguen como chuchos fieles seguramente necesitan una ducha fresca y camisa nueva...)
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
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    OH DIOS DEL FEDERALISMO

    OH JOSE LUIS, EL ILUMINAO
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Cita Iniciado por picassent_blau
    OH DIOS DEL FEDERALISMO

    OH JOSE LUIS, EL ILUMINAO


    Creo que era un antepasado más de Pérez el Cardo (Borriquero).

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    Tinent de lo Regne
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    que crack Rudy

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