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  1. #1
    Sargent Centenar
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     mai te gitaras sense saber algo mes!!

    Puix supose que com yo molt de vosatros a vegaes vos feu preguntes sobre valencianisme , anticatalanisme o inclus catalanisme, pero el considerem con poc important com per obrir un fil nou en el foro, aixina que propose este tema per a totes ises preguntes aparentement sense importancia...

    puix la meua es..

    en que consistixen exactamente els furs?cuals son els pros i contres de recuperarlos?....
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  2. #2
    Sargent Centenar
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    AldaYa
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    Els furs son les costums que tenien en el regne de valencia i com a costums...lleis tam
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  3. #3
    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    11 abr, 07
    Ubicacin
    Valencia
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    606
    si, pero ixa no es la pregunta, sino en que conisteixen exactament

  4. #4
    Sargent Centenar
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    18 may, 07
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    AldaYa
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    En qu consistixen? consistix'en en agrupar les costums a seguir....
    la paraula fur o fuero, es com dir capitul o capitulo


    No s En qu creus tu que consistixen? alomillor seguisc sense saber que se pregunta
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  5. #5
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 abr, 07
    Ubicacin
    Valencia Kingdom, Spain
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    Be chiquets, vos vaig a explicar lo que son els furs.

    Els Furs delimitaven el ordenament juridic del Regne de Valencia entre 1238 i 1707(469 anys), i recapitulen les lleis, usages i costums que regien el Regne en els temps en els quals erem Regne foral.

    Venen a ser un simil al actual Estatut dAutonomia, pero en excepcions puntuals:

    * Els Furs no obeen a cap atra norma llegal, com ara si ho fa lEstatut, que est somes a la Constitucio Espanyola, a la qual deu fidelitat i respecte. Es dir, els Furs eren la Constitucio del Regne.

    * Els Furs recopilaven tota una serie de normes dus comu i costums, a banda de les lleis, que regien la vida cotidiana dels Valencians mediant determinades institucions tradicionals que eren les que aplicaven ixos usages i costums i velaven pel seu compliment: sindic de greuges, tribunal de les aiges, iglesia, sistema propi de peses, medides i mijos de pagament (moneda), regim fiscal i tributari, lleis dherencia, regim matrimonial, etc etc etc.

    Resumint: era el sistema llegal que regia la vida dels Valencians, la carta magna del nostre poble.

    Recuperacio dels Furs: Laplicacio hui en dia dixos furs seria materialment imposible, a mes danacronica i incongruent:

    Lo que si s cert es que, els furs son de dificil, per no dir imposible aplicacio hui en dia, pero lo que el VALENCIANISME FORALISTE reivindica no s la recuperacio del Furs, sino la recuperacio del caracter foral de la nostra comunitat (historic Regne de Valencia), el reconeiximent del nostre fet diferencial dins dEspanya mediant un Estatut dAutonomia acord a dixe fet diferencial, com el tenen atres comunitats-nacionalitats historiques dEspanya: Navarra, per eixemple (no posare leixemple de Catalunya donat que pense que la seua nacionalitat historica s inventada en els temps del romanticisme novocentiste, al igual que la vasca).

    Espere que lexplicacio vos haja servit... Salutacions.
    @VdeVox: Espaol, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupcin. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

  6. #6
    Senescal de lo Regne
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    Exacto, los fueros estaban bien para la poca, pero hoy estn completamente desfasados. Por ejemplo, no contemplaban que las mujeres votasen.

  7. #7
    Sargent Centenar
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    10 oct, 06
    Ubicacin
    Regne de Valnncia
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    1,451
    Cita Iniciado por picassent_blau
    Be chiquets, vos vaig a explicar lo que son els furs.

    Els Furs delimitaven el ordenament juridic del Regne de Valencia entre 1238 i 1707(469 anys), i recapitulen les lleis, usages i costums que regien el Regne en els temps en els quals erem Regne foral.

    Venen a ser un simil al actual Estatut dAutonomia, pero en excepcions puntuals:

    * Els Furs no obeen a cap atra norma llegal, com ara si ho fa lEstatut, que est somes a la Constitucio Espanyola, a la qual deu fidelitat i respecte. Es dir, els Furs eren la Constitucio del Regne.

    * Els Furs recopilaven tota una serie de normes dus comu i costums, a banda de les lleis, que regien la vida cotidiana dels Valencians mediant determinades institucions tradicionals que eren les que aplicaven ixos usages i costums i velaven pel seu compliment: sindic de greuges, tribunal de les aiges, iglesia, sistema propi de peses, medides i mijos de pagament (moneda), regim fiscal i tributari, lleis dherencia, regim matrimonial, etc etc etc.

    Resumint: era el sistema llegal que regia la vida dels Valencians, la carta magna del nostre poble.

    Recuperacio dels Furs: Laplicacio hui en dia dixos furs seria materialment imposible, a mes danacronica i incongruent:

    Lo que si s cert es que, els furs son de dificil, per no dir imposible aplicacio hui en dia, pero lo que el VALENCIANISME FORALISTE reivindica no s la recuperacio del Furs, sino la recuperacio del caracter foral de la nostra comunitat (historic Regne de Valencia), el reconeiximent del nostre fet diferencial dins dEspanya mediant un Estatut dAutonomia acord a dixe fet diferencial, com el tenen atres comunitats-nacionalitats historiques dEspanya: Navarra, per eixemple (no posare leixemple de Catalunya donat que pense que la seua nacionalitat historica s inventada en els temps del romanticisme novocentiste, al igual que la vasca).

    Espere que lexplicacio vos haja servit... Salutacions.
    moltes gracies

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de Aradin
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    picassent_blau

    Vista la web valencianismo.com

    la web del valencianismo

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    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
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    ... de res... per a tot lo que vullgau.

    Sincerely yours,

    Picassent_Blau!

    PS: Crec que este es un fil molt important, donat que el coneiximent de lo que representen els Furs i el Valencianisme Foraliste nos dona arguments per a saber discernir la nostra condicio valencianista. Com diu el titul del fil: MAI TE GITARAS SENSE ADEPRENDRE UNA COSA NOVA.
    @VdeVox: Espaol, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupcin. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    Centenar de la Ploma
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    molt bo!

    ale me'n vaig al llit, bona nit
    Porque aquellas lenguas que han tenido un siglo de oro ya se merecen ese reconocimiento internacional de lengua propia diferente y diferenciada.

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    molt interessant, estaria b que ho possareu en el foro de DOCUMENTACI...

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    Fiscal de lo Regne Avatar de Fayostros
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    Els FURS son ni mes ni manco............


    Els Costums d'un poble.

    Com els teus principis com a persona..... son .... els teus FURS particulars.

    Vols que te lleven aix?........ els teus Principis morals?

    Mes clar.............. Aigua.

    "Los fascistas del futuro, se llamarn a s mismos antifascistas."
    Winston Churchill

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