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Per que el dictamen de la AVL-c no és llegal

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Tema: Per que el dictamen de la AVL-c no és llegal

  1. #1
    Senescal de lo Regne
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    19 may, 06
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    3,118

    Per que el dictamen de la AVL-c no és llegal

    Despues de hablar con algunos abogados expertos en derecho y leyes todos me han dicho lo mismo, ningún dictamen es legal en España ni en Europa ni el resto del mundo. Un dictamen como recoge el DRAE es:

    Dictamen.

    (Del lat. dictāmen).

    1. m. Opinión y juicio que se forma o emite sobre algo.

    casarse alguien con su ~.

    1. loc. verb. Aferrarse al juicio propio.

    tomar ~ de alguien.

    1. loc. verb. tomar consejo de alguien.




    Es decir, que cualquier texto "oficial" en este caso el de la AVL-c no son más que meros documentos orientativos carentes de valor legal, solamente sirven para que la gente consulte los dictámenes y sepa una opinión creada por una persona.

    Por lo que el dictamen que hizo la AVL-c carece completamente de valor legal y no sirve para nada, así que toda esa gente que nos niega nuestra lengua basándose en el famoso dictamen no tienen ninguna base legal a la que aferrarse. Basta de AVL-c, y de mentiras y manipulación por su parte. Que todo el mundo se entere de esto, que es muy necesario: LA AVL-c PUEDE HACER 200 DICTÁMENES DICIENDO QUE EL VALENCIANO ES CATALÁN, PERO NINGUNO TENDRÁN VALOR LEGAL PARA NEGAR LA LENGUA VALENCIANA CONTEMPLADA EN NUESTRO ESTATUTO.

  2. #2
    Cavaller Centenar
    Fecha de ingreso
    20 ene, 07
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    1,543

    ya pero... hasta cuando

  3. #3
    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    05 jun, 07
    Ubicación
    Valéncia
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    803
    no te han hablado del poder de hecho o de facto? que ha conseguido al emitir ese juicio de valor una institución como la AVL? pues que la cierta "autoridad" reconocida sobrepase un simple juicio de valor...
    [B]Azaña, després de la dictadura de Primo de Rivera, tornà a reinplantar la càtedra de Llengua Valenciana
    Azaña, tras la dictadura de Primo de Rivera, volvió a reimplantar la cátedra de Lengua Valenciana

  4. #4
    Comandant de lo Regne Avatar de Valencianot
    Fecha de ingreso
    25 ago, 06
    Ubicación
    Picassent
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    7,387
    Clar, lo que fa llegal és l'EstaBrut.
    Catarroja aigua roja i el moli sense forment i les chiques guapes en Alcasser i Picassent.

  5. #5
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 abr, 07
    Ubicación
    Valencia Kingdom, Spain
    Mensajes
    3,830
    Cita Iniciado por Valencianot
    Clar, lo que fa llegal és l'EstaBrut.
    Per a que TOTS sapiam lo que diu l´Estatut:

    Article sext

    1. La llengua pròpia de la Comunitat Valenciana és el valencià.
    2. L'idioma valencià és l'oficial a la Comunitat Valenciana, igual que ho és el castellà, que és l'idioma oficial de l'Estat. Tots tenen dret a conéixer-los i a usar-los i a rebre l'ensenyament del, i en, idioma valencià.
    3. La Generalitat garantirà l'ús normal i oficial de les dos llengües, i adoptarà les mesures necessàries per tal d'assegurar-ne el coneixement.
    4. Ningú no podrà ser discriminat per raó de la seua llengua.
    5. S'atorgarà especial protecció i respecte a la recuperació del valencià.
    6. La llei establirà els criteris d'aplicació de la llengua pròpia en l'Administració i l'ensenyament.
    7. Es delimitaran per llei els territoris en els quals predomine l'ús d'una llengua o de l'altra, així com els que puguen ser exceptuats de l'ensenyament i de l'ús de la llengua pròpia de la Comunitat Valenciana.
    8. L'Acadèmia Valenciana de la Llengua és la institució normativa de l'idioma valencià.


    El "article" 8 contradiu els "articles" 1, 2, 3, 4 i 5.

    Observem per tant 2 formes de acabar en el catalanisme dominant:

    a) Reformar l´Estatut.
    b) Sustituïr a tots els membres de la AVL.cat.

    La qüestio es ben facil...



    Aço dia el diccionari Larousse en 1974.
    @VdeVox: Español, valenciano y regionalista, opositor del catalanismo y la corrupción. Hoy en Vox Valencia, junto a otros muchos valencianos comprometidos.

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    mentres estiga la AVL sarà Catlencià en esta epoca no se li fan molt d cas al estatuts
    cosa estranya

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    on estiga sempre porte a valencia en el COR
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    Te rao aLDRe, mentres estiga la avl sera catlencia i mentres estiga el pp, valencia i es valencians serem la moneda de canvi, pero temps al temps... la lluita continua... mai faran callar la veu del poble VIXCA LO REGNE
    VALENCIA IS NOT KATALUÑA

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    A vore, mentres estiga la AVL m'importa un comino. Los dictámens que fa son orientatius i en cap cas són llegals. AVL-c

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    Entonçes la AVL es com el meu profe de Catlencia ya pot dir lo que li done la gana que res

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    Cita Iniciado por aLDRe
    Entonçes la AVL es com el meu profe de Catlencia ya pot dir lo que li done la gana que res
    Exacte, per que ton profe té la carrera de filologia catalana, no valenciana. Lo que está donant es català én vocabulari valencià per a que la gent no li parega català.

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    Mestre de lo Regne
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    Yo crec que en esta vida tenin voluntad tot es pot solucionar. Pero fa falta estar en els puestos necesaris per a ferlo. Quan esten en el govern es podran fer els canvis que volen, mentres no. Una salutacio.

    VIXCA CV

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    SENTO1 te rao, fa falta voluntat politica p'a que canvien les coses, i qui esta ara mateix en el poder PP - en majoria absoluta en diferents llegislatures - no en te.
    Aço no es una pelicula de Hollywood a on sempre guanyen els bons i qui te la rao, per desgracia en la vida real "guanyen" els tramposos i la gent sense escrupuls. Han desaparegut moltes llengües en el mon, i la valenciana, per desgracia i per culpa dels politics de merda que tenim, va de cami.

    El dictamen de l'AVL tambe es incorrecte, fals i illegal pels seus propis continguts tal i com demostra l'articul "LA ILEGAL (Y CATALANISTA) A.V.L. DENTRO DEL ESTATUTO VALENCIANO" ( http://www.idiomavalencia.com/docs/val/avlilegal.htm )

    Una chicoteta part:
    Malintencionadamente, la A.V.L. obvia que está obligada por su ley de creación, por su propio reglamento y por el dictamen del C.V.C. a observar para el idioma Valenciano su correcta entidad y naturaleza de "idioma" o "lengua", por lo que el aludido dictamen de la academia, donde, sin competencias, la A.V.L. denigra la lengua Valenciana al nivel de "habla" ("parla") (y partiendo de dicha falsedad argumenta la supuesta catalanidad del idioma Valenciano) es nulo de todo derecho y no puede servirle legalmente a nadie para justificar la falsa "unidad" de las lenguas Valenciana y Catalana (ni siquiera al Tribunal Supremo).

    El problema es que encara que se sap tot aixo, els del PP$OE passen de tot i deixen fer als catalanistes lo que volen. No tenen la rao, pero imponen el catalanisme via fets consumats.

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    El problema es que encara que se sap tot aixo, els del PP$OE passen de tot i deixen fer als catalanistes lo que volen. No tenen la rao, pero imponen el catalanisme via fets consumats.
    El problema no es sols el PSOE sino qualsevol partit de ambit nacional que li es mes rentable negociar en els nacionalistes catalans per a manar desde Madrit, que defendre les senyes valencianes.

    http://www.pp-valencia.es.vg/

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