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Nuestra lengua valenciana

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Tema: Nuestra lengua valenciana

  1. #1
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    Nuestra lengua valenciana

    Al mirar por las wikipedias y otras paginas similares te hablan siempre de valenciano como dialecto del catalan. Me gustaria saber ¿cuando se empezó a considerar nuestra lengua como un dialecto? y el porque de tal chorrada.

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    Tinent de lo Regne
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    la veritat ... fa poc no se quan pero el catalanisme s'instaurà en el Regne de Valéncia per els anys 70...

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Re: Nuestra lengua valenciana

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    Al mirar por las wikipedias y otras paginas similares te hablan siempre de valenciano como dialecto del catalan. Me gustaria saber ¿cuando se empezó a considerar nuestra lengua como un dialecto? y el porque de tal chorrada.
    Según el libro del Profesor F.Llisó Genovés, parece que la cosa comenzó al acabar la guerra civil; Franco jamás perdonó a Valencia el hecho de haber sido el último reducto republicano en rendirse; por ello, durante algún tiempo estuvo especulando qué tipo de represalias tomar; y entre ellas estuvo, con el factor adicional de ciertas presiones burguesas y fascistas catalanas, borrar al valenciano de la lista de idiomas y convertirlo en dialecto catalan, haciendo que así figure, desde los años 40 en los libros de texto escolares (sobra decir que el renegado Joan Fuster estaba ya bastante metidito en el ajo).
    Por lo menos, esta es la información y las fuentes de las que dispongo. Si alguien sabe algo más, que lo ponga.

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    L'idea del valencià com dialecte del catala es anterior al franquisme. De fet, crec que ya se pot ratrejar a principis del sigle XX: Joseph Aladern, en 1903, en "Lo català, ¿llengua o dialecte?" crec que ya ho apunta.

    I possiblement algu ho diria a mitan del XIX, mes o menys.

  5. #5
    Aspirant a Centenar
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    y ¿Como se podria cambiar esto?, es decir, que dejase de considerarse dialecto.

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    Cita Iniciado por Halloran
    L'idea del valencià com dialecte del catala es anterior al franquisme. De fet, crec que ya se pot ratrejar a principis del sigle XX: Joseph Aladern, en 1903, en "Lo català, ¿llengua o dialecte?" crec que ya ho apunta.
    I possiblement algu ho diria a mitan del XIX, mes o menys.
    Cuando el químico cubano Pompeyo Fabra sentó las Bases para una Gramática Catalana, transcurría los comienzos del siglo XX. Y cuando Alcover elaboró su Diccionario Catalán-Valenciano-Balear, se negó en redondo a cambiar este nombre, a instancias de los catalanistas de su época, por el de "Diccionario de la Lengua Catalana"; por lo tanto, es cierto que a comienzos del siglo XX, efectivamente, los medios catalanistas ya tenían pensado absorber lingüísticamente al valenciano y al balear; pero no sería hasta después de la Guerra Civil, en los años 40, por las razones que antes expuse, cuando se accediera en los libros de texto a eliminar a la lengua valenciana como idioma para pasar a ser redefinida oficialmente como un dialecto catalán. Lo que ya no sé, es cómo corrió análoga suerte el balear.

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    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
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    y ¿Como se podria cambiar esto?, es decir, que dejase de considerarse dialecto.
    Me temo que como Cataluña no se convierta en arenas movedizas y se hunda sobre sí misma bajo el mar, lo tenemos un pelín crudo.

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