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Tema: nuevo frete de expansionismo vasco

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    nuevo frete de expansionismo vasco

    Bueno todos conocemos que el nacionalismo vasco, al igual que el catalan, es expansionista, todos sabemos que el panvasquismo se suele centrar en Navarra, pues bien, ahora le ha salido otro interes, LA RIOJA


    La conferencia del lehendakari en Stanford University permitió comprobar hasta qué punto manipula el nacionalismo la realidad. Ibarretxe definió los límites territoriales del País Vasco incluyendo a Navarra y el sur de Francia. Ninguna novedad en el discurso separatista. Más llamativo fue que presentase el vino de Rioja como un producto vasco. No hay nada fortuito en esa apropiación. Hablar del Rioja en la zona de Estados Unidos con mayor cultura y desarrollo industrial del vino es referirse a un producto de prestigio global asociado a España.

    La conferencia de Ibarretxe tuvo nulo eco en medios políticos y en creadores de Opinión norteamericanos. La acción de pequeños focos de presión nacionalistas del País Vasco residentes en Estados Unidos no ha conseguido despertar el menor interés por los mitos del PNV y por su causa independentista.

    En Libertad Digital Televisión, el pasado jueves 14 de febrero, un buen conocedor del tejido político y cívico americano, Jon Juaristi, ya adelantaba que la conferencia del lehendakari en el campus de Stanford no tendría la menor trascendencia en ese país.

    Para algunos residentes españoles en la Costa Oeste, la iniciativa del profesor de Stanford, Joan Ramón Resina, ha supuesto una utilización espurea del prestigio de la universidad, poniéndola al servicio de la manipulación nacionalista.

    Pablo Moreno Galbis, un ingeniero español de telecomunicaciones que vive y trabaja en Sillicon Valley, escribía en su blog el pasado viernes, al día siguiente de la conferencia de Ibarretxe:

    "Ha sido un evento de campaña absolutamente vergonzoso, no tanto por el mensaje de Ibarretxe, que al fin y al cabo ya sabía lo que iba a decir y apenas puede sorprender a nadie, sino, sobre todo, por ver cómo Joan Ramón Resina, principal organizador del evento junto a John Etchemendy, han aprovechado sus trabajos en Stanford para organizar un mitin político en la Universidad".

    Según este asistente a la conferencia, los inscritos en el evento recibieron un día antes "un email en el que se nos advertía que nos e permitiría llevar ninguna señal de protesta al interior de la sala y que se registraría a todos los que fueran".

    Las preguntas pasaron por el filtro de la censura de Resina, que actuó como introductor de Ibarretxe y moderador de las intervenciones del público, que debían ser por escrito.

    Sobre la conferencia en sí, Pedro Moreno informa en su blog que constó de dos partes. En la primera, Ibarretxe habló de "la historia y grandeza del pueblo vasco". La segunda la dedicó a exponer su plan de independencia.

    Al hablar de los orígenes y grandezas míticas del pueblo vasco –"el pueblo más antiguo de Europa", con un "mapa genético diferente", según el resumen publicado por el mismo blogger– Ibarretxe delimitó el territorio vasco, incluyendo a Navarra y País Vasco-Francés. Y "no ha dudado en poner los vinos de Rioja como ejemplo de producto vasco".

    La apropiación no es fortuita. Ibarretxe era consciente de estar hablando en la región productora de vinos más importante de Estados Unidos, donde el vino de Rioja es símbolo de excelencia y objeto de emulación por los viticultores locales.

    Fuente: Libertad Digital.

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    Ey! Que hay vinos D.O. Rioja cultivados y producidos en las vascongadas, a ver si sólo ha sido un error de traducción.

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    Comarcas vitivinícolas Comunidades Autónomas

    La Rioja (España)

    D.O. Calificada La Rioja
    De momento la única Denominación de Origen Calificada. Dicho reglamento es de 1991. Su zona de producción comprende 139 municipios de la provincias de Alava, La Rioja, y Navarra (sin olvidar parte de los terrenos del término municipal de Miranda de Ebro, en Burgos). Se definen tres zonas: Rioja Alavesa, Rioja Alta y Rioja Baja.
    Variedades autorizadas: Viura, Malvasía riojana y Garnacha blanca (blancas) y Garnacha Tempranillo, Graciano y Mazuelo (tintas). Se permiten también otras variedades si fueron implantadas antes de 1956.
    Vinos cubiertos por la D.O.: Blanco, Rosado y Tinto.

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    millor no dir res fins que no ho comproveu.

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    Està en Deports, si algun moderador pot canviar-lo...
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    Centenar de la Ploma
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    patetico el lehendakari este ......
    \"La diferencia entre una religión , el comunismo y un espejismo es el número de personas que la comparten\".

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    Tendriamos que apoyar a Navrra y a la Rioja, que tienen el mismo problema que nosotros pero ellos un poco mas facil de solucionar
    MAI MOS FAREU CATALANS! MAI!

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    Hombre, exactamente el mismo ...?

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    Hombre, exactamente el mismo ...?

    yo sentint a gent de les dos part.

    resumix que el tema euskaldun es com si vingueren a conquistarmos al regne de valencia i nos separaren als alacantins castellonencs i valencians i la llengua els conquistadors la marginaren, i despres en el temps els alicantins i castellonencs vullgeren idependisar en valencia.


    en navarra s'origina el euskera , no sq els vascos vullguen apropiar-se de navarra sino que volen formar un atra vega el regne de navarra com era abans de que espanya els conquerira.
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    HILO MOVIDO A ACTUALIDAD.

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    els catalans han fet que tots cregam que lo dels catalans es lo mateix que lo de euskal herria, escocia....

    no caiguem nosatros en eixa trampa
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    Uf... no puedo evitar firmar...


    Tras mucho tiermpo en silencio (Excusa barata pero decente)m debido a los examenes, puedo dedicar más tiempo a VF y a toda la gente de aqui.


    Ni siquiera me habia enterado de este suceso. Ni que decir tiene que el lehendakari es muy suyo...


    El tema del vino hay que recordar que existen los cultivos de la rioja alavesa. Pero aun asi no deja de sera un virus que intenta expandirse por doquier.... en fin... espero que poco a poco mejoremos esto. En seguida abro un foro para "Celebrar" el fin de los examns... un saludo para MOSATROS (si es que es asi... XD)

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    "en navarra s'origina el euskera , no sq els vascos vullguen apropiar-se de navarra sino que volen formar un atra vega el regne de navarra com era abans de que espanya els conquerira"

    Más o menos correcto, de echo etimológicamente euskaldun es aquel que habla vasco, y por lo tanto, País Vasco o Reino de Navarra serían aproximadamente sinónimos.

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    Cita Iniciado por vasco
    Uf... no puedo evitar firmar...


    Tras mucho tiermpo en silencio (Excusa barata pero decente)m debido a los examenes, puedo dedicar más tiempo a VF y a toda la gente de aqui.


    Ni siquiera me habia enterado de este suceso. Ni que decir tiene que el lehendakari es muy suyo...


    El tema del vino hay que recordar que existen los cultivos de la rioja alavesa. Pero aun asi no deja de sera un virus que intenta expandirse por doquier.... en fin... espero que poco a poco mejoremos esto. En seguida abro un foro para "Celebrar" el fin de los examns... un saludo para MOSATROS (si es que es asi... XD)
    jajaj casi casi

    MOSATROS = NOSOTROS
    VOSATROS = VOSOTROS
    \"A true patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government.\"

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