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Carod-Rovira asegura recuperarán la independencia n el s.XXI

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  1. #1
    Prior de lo Regne
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    Carod-Rovira asegura recuperarán la independencia n el s.XXI

    http://www.valenciahui.com/noticia.p...ecuperaran_la_

    Carod-Rovira asegura que recuperarán la independencia en el s. XXI
    07.04.08 | 02:00. Archivado en Politica

    Redacción (Vh).- El vicepresidente de la Generalitat de Cataluña y presidente de ERC, Josep Lluís Carod-Rovira, ha vuelto a reivindicar la independencia de los países catalanes en uno de sus viajes por Europa.

    Así, en una entrevista concedida al diario alemán ‘Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung’ vaticina que tanto Cataluña como Escocia “recuperarán la independencia durante el siglo XXI”.

    Carod-Rovira insistió también en el objetivo de su partido de convocar un referéndum en el año 2014 en el que los catalanes decidan sobre su independencia.

    El responsable independentista negó similitudes entre el caso catalán y Kosovo pero sí destacó semblanzas con Escocia: “Perdimos nuestras formas de gobierno propias en el siglo XVIII y las reconquistaremos en el XXI”, sentencia.

    El presidente de ERC negó rotundamente que España “dé cabida a todos” y calificó de “incierta e imposible” esta posibilidad. En esta línea, consideró “inviable” el concepto de una España plurinacional.

    “En lo que respecta a decisiones políticas y económicas, España está completamente centralizada. Todo depende de Madrid. Y español sólo se puede ser en castellano”, apostilló Carod-Rovira.

    El dirigente catalanista también criticó la situación económica de Cataluña y aseguró estar “desprotegida” por el Gobierno.

  2. #2
    Sargent Centenar Avatar de delenda cat
    Fecha de ingreso
    19 jul, 07
    Ubicación
    Tavernes Blanques
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    1,068
    No se a quina independencia es referixen, ¿A la de la marca hispánica?

    Y que mania de posarmos sempre en el mateix sac.

  3. #3
    Prior de lo Regne
    Fecha de ingreso
    14 feb, 07
    Ubicación
    Valéncia, Cap i Casal (Lo Regne de Valéncia)
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    3,711
    En el 2014 faran el ridícul, tal i com ho han fet en estes eleccions...

  4. #4
    Centenar de la Ploma
    Fecha de ingreso
    25 nov, 07
    Ubicación
    Piera ( Cataluña )
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    637
    no pueden recuperar lo que nunca ha tenido Cataluña niell condado de Barcelona
    , independencia nunca tuvo , pues o fue parte del imperio Carolingio , despues paso a formar parte de la Corona de Aragon y despues fue parte de españa ,,,

    este se chuta Mahonesa con salmonelosis por lo menos .....
    \"La diferencia entre una religión , el comunismo y un espejismo es el número de personas que la comparten\".

  5. #5
    Mestre de lo Regne
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    20 abr, 06
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    Valencia
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    2,989
    Cita Iniciado por mariana
    En el 2014 faran el ridícul, tal i com ho han fet en estes eleccions...
    +1

    Cita Iniciado por Firebird

    este se chuta Mahonesa con salmonelosis por lo menos .....

  6. #6
    Sargent Centenar Avatar de MiTierra
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 dic, 07
    Ubicación
    Vall dels Alcalans
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    1,213
    Pero.......... ¿es pensa el terroriste este que algú es creu les seues demagogies?.
    Les anteriors eleccions digueren que CADA VOLTA, MOLTS MENYS.

    Si volen continuar en eixa llinea, casi que millor per al seu final, que ya fa olor.

  7. #7
    Palleter de lo Regne Avatar de Rudyweiss
    Fecha de ingreso
    19 abr, 06
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    La Cabaña de Grizzly Adams (Aragón - Gondwana)
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    ¿Pero no hay unos chalados que andan diciendo que en el año 2.012, va a ser el Fin del Mundo? Sed buenos pancas, que sino, los alienígenas no os rescatarán cuando la Tierra reviente ...


  8. #8
    Prior de lo Regne Avatar de SomValencians.es
    Fecha de ingreso
    06 abr, 07
    Ubicación
    Valencia Kingdom, Spain
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    3,830
    ¿¿¿ RECUPERAR ??? ¿¿¿ EL QUÉ ???

    ¿Alguna vez fueron independientes? Veamos...

    1º VEZ (1 SEMANA): La proclamación de la República Catalana se producía el 17 de enero de 1641. Sin embargo, una semana después, ante la entrada del ejército de Felipe IV, el presidente de la Generalidad, Pau Claris, tuvo que proclamar el 23 de enero a Luis XIII de Francia como Conde de Barcelona (sería sucedido en 1643 por Luis XIV, hasta 1652), poniendo así el "Principado sin príncipe" de Cataluña bajo soberanía francesa.

    Dejan de ser españoles para pasar a ser franceses... Cómico y lógico, dado que su lengua (el provenzal) procede de Francia.

    2º VEZ (UNOS DÍAS): En febrero de 1873, Estanislao Figueras es elegido presidente de la Primera República Española, cargo que ocupó hasta junio del mismo año, cuando la crisis económica, la división interna de su propio partido y la proclamación de forma unilateral e ilegal del Estado Catalán, que sólo pudo ser revocada aceptando la disolución del ejército en Cataluña, motivan su sustitución por Francisco Pi y Margall y su huida a Francia, de donde vuelve a final de año para intentar, sin éxito, recomponer el fragmentado Partido Federal.

    El amigo Figueras, monta el pollo y luego huye como una rata cobarde. Una vez más, un catalán emigra huyendo a su madre patria, Francia. Y ya empiezan con el rollo ese del "federalismo".

    3º VEZ (6 MESES): El 14 de abril de 1931, después de las elecciones municipales que dan la mayoría a su partido ERC, Francesc Macià proclama la República Catalana desde el balcón de la Generalitat de Catalunya. Después de tensas conversaciones, el 18 de octubre se llega al acuerdo de que el consejo formado en Barcelona debía actuar como gobierno de la Generalidad de Cataluña. Más adelante, cuando se hace patente el fracaso del proyecto de Estado Federal, Macià se ve obligado a aceptar un Estatuto de autonomía para Cataluña.

    El colega Macià acaba dejando obviar que la intentona independentista es un farol, aceptando un estatuto de autonomía y resignándose al fracaso de una España federal (que es lo que ahora pretende su correligionario Carot, otro fracasado del federalismo).

    4º VEZ (5 MINUTOS): El 6 de octubre de 1934, el Presidente de la Generalidad Lluís Companys (ERC) vuelve a proclamar ilegalmente el Estado Catalán o República Catalana. El intento es rápidamente abortado en cinco minutos por el gobierno español, Companys detenido y hecho preso y el gobierno autónomo, suspendido.

    Los 5 minutos de gloria "nacional" más cómicos de la historia... encima acaban perdiendo hasta el estatuto que negoció Macià, por gilipollas.

    SIEMPRE, Y RESUMIENDO, SU INDEPENDENCIA SE HA PROCLAMADO DE FORMA ILEGAL Y SU DURACIÓN HA SIDO DETERMINADAMENTE CORTA.

    ¿INDEPENDIENTES DE QUÉ?...

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    Centenar de la Ploma
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    yo iba a decir lo que ha dicho picasent blau, nunca han sido independientes de forma legal, yo creo que este tio no esta acabado, ojala en su casa haya un socabon...

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    yo iba a decir lo que ha dicho picasent blau, nunca han sido independientes de forma legal, yo creo que este tio no esta acabado, ojala en su casa haya un socabon...
    ni de forma illegal tampoc ho han sigut, estos és que encara no s´han donat conte que els "independentistes-salvapàtriesinexistents" son una minoria en Catalunya..aixina que imagina´t en els demes puestos...

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    A vore si se donen ya conter de una cosa, per a que lo Regne de Valencia siga algun dia catalunya se te que fer un referendum, efectivament.....pero el problema es que se poden pegar tal ostia en el referendum que no tindran ganes de asomar mes el cap per la nostra terra.

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    independents???? els catalans sempre han format part de la Corona d'Aragó. de la marca hispànica o d'Espanya. Aixina que de recuperar...res de res Ademés ells que fajen lo que vuiguen i que mos dixen als valencians en pau.

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